MEETING LOG

The Council of Guilds met on Thursday, Mar. 30, 2000 in the Freeport City Hall. Below is the log from that meeting, taken by Belce, of the Silver Daggers edited to remove /tells, /shouts, /ooc and anything else not relevant to the discussion. I have split this into 2 pages as it is very large.


[Thu Mar 30 21:53:11 2000] Soleeb says, 'Yeah well im trying to avoid a repeat of that. '
[Thu Mar 30 21:53:23 2000] Tandara wonders what happened.
[Thu Mar 30 21:53:25 2000] Khala says, 'Who can we give the donations to? and when?'
[Thu Mar 30 21:53:36 2000] Padawon wonders if he can be the ref to strike down trouble makers
[Thu Mar 30 21:53:40 2000] Soleeb says, 'Should be fun...i was in a newbie tourney when i was young, was fun'
[Thu Mar 30 21:53:45 2000] Jzonn says, 'Is a guide or GM invited to the event?'
[Thu Mar 30 21:53:47 2000] Soleeb says, 'Well ya can give em to me, ill be handeling that stuff'
[Thu Mar 30 21:53:56 2000] Khala nods.
[Thu Mar 30 21:53:58 2000] Soleeb says, 'Hm? no i hadnt thought of that'
[Thu Mar 30 21:54:21 2000] Padawon says, 'the ref part?'
[Thu Mar 30 21:54:21 2000] You say, 'we did inform the gm's before they do not attend other business'
[Thu Mar 30 21:54:24 2000] Pippi says, 'guess we can provide bodyguards for standby'
[Thu Mar 30 21:54:38 2000] Jzonn says, 'I don't think it will eliminate the potential problems, but it might help in resolving disputes.'
[Thu Mar 30 21:54:48 2000] Khala nods.
[Thu Mar 30 21:54:55 2000] Soleeb says, 'and eye candy for the newbies heh'
[Thu Mar 30 21:55:04 2000] Khala laughs.
[Thu Mar 30 21:55:06 2000] Yerfdog raises his hand.
[Thu Mar 30 21:55:10 2000] Eleysian says, 'The best way to handle the problems such as those is ignore them, and halt the guild event until a GM comes.'
[Thu Mar 30 21:55:25 2000] You say, 'I would also mention that after a gm did email us apologizing for what happened guides have no authority in the arena'
[Thu Mar 30 21:55:34 2000] Eleysian nods.
[Thu Mar 30 21:55:38 2000] Khala says, 'I understood they did not interfere in player run events'
[Thu Mar 30 21:55:43 2000] Eleysian says, 'However...'
[Thu Mar 30 21:55:53 2000] Eleysian says, 'Gharn did say that had he been there, things would have been different.'
[Thu Mar 30 21:55:54 2000] Soleeb says, 'hm, well im hoping that nothing happens, but ill deal with them as they come along.'
[Thu Mar 30 21:56:25 2000] Tandara says, 'someday I would like to know what happened--not now so as not to sidetrack us but someday'
[Thu Mar 30 21:56:33 2000] Soleeb says, 'BTW, your welcome to just come and watch, i like crowds to a degree'
[Thu Mar 30 21:56:49 2000] Tandara raises her hand.
[Thu Mar 30 21:57:05 2000] You say, 'a tourney is good sport, betting on winners and just for fun'
[Thu Mar 30 21:57:06 2000] Soleeb says, 'ok well thats all i can think of'
[Thu Mar 30 21:57:15 2000] You say, 'Tan?'
[Thu Mar 30 21:57:17 2000] Soleeb bows.
[Thu Mar 30 21:57:22 2000] Tandara says, 'was someone before me?'
[Thu Mar 30 21:57:39 2000] You say, 'speak if so not certain'
[Thu Mar 30 21:57:49 2000] Padawon says, 'eleysian and ..'
[Thu Mar 30 21:58:00 2000] Padawon says, 'yerfdog i think'
[Thu Mar 30 21:58:11 2000] Yerfdog declines his turn.
[Thu Mar 30 21:58:16 2000] Padawon says, 'wine hit me though not sure =)'
[Thu Mar 30 21:58:16 2000] Jzonn thinks Padawon is correct.
[Thu Mar 30 21:58:18 2000] You say, 'ok Ele yerf and then Tan'
[Thu Mar 30 21:58:32 2000] Khala pokes Padawon.
[Thu Mar 30 21:58:41 2000] Kordail tells the guild, '*snore*'
[Thu Mar 30 21:59:10 2000] Askaria yawns.
[Thu Mar 30 21:59:18 2000] Eleysian says, 'My Comment was an elaboration of Padawon's regarding role playing. I think any guild event should have an emphasis on role playing in particular and it should be stressed that people please come in character as it were.'
[Thu Mar 30 21:59:38 2000] Jzonn nods.
[Thu Mar 30 21:59:46 2000] Tandara agrees.
[Thu Mar 30 21:59:48 2000] Askaria says, 'Sorry to interupt guys.. but I must depart :('
[Thu Mar 30 21:59:57 2000] Padawon says, 'ACK!'
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:08 2000] Askaria says, 'Its late.. and a shaman girl needs her rest.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:14 2000] Padawon bows before Askaria.
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:14 2000] Nausicaa says, 'it is late for her and she must get her pretty rest )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:16 2000] Askaria bows.
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:17 2000] Pippi says, 'nice to meet ya'
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:18 2000] Soleeb says, 'Aw, always sad to see a shaman girl leave'
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:22 2000] Jzonn bows before Askaria.
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:25 2000] Askaria says, 'Nice to meet you all :)'
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:25 2000] Padawon waves goodbye to Askaria.
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:26 2000] Coladar bows before Askaria.
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:27 2000] Nausicaa hugs Askaria.
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:28 2000] Nausicaa waves at Askaria.
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:29 2000] Soleeb bows before Askaria.
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:29 2000] Khala says, 'Goodnight to you Askaria, nice to have met you '
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:32 2000] Khala bows before Askaria.
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:33 2000] Tandara says, 'Goodbye Askaria'
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:35 2000] Padawon says, 'nite and good travels'
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:39 2000] You say, 'thank you for coming the reat will be posted on the council board'
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:46 2000] You say, 'rest'
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:54 2000] Askaria hugs Nausicaa.
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:56 2000] Eleysian says, 'Unless otherwise noted, of course :) Also, a multi guild storyline is something my guild, alongside Seekers of Knowledge and Banished Phantoms '
[Thu Mar 30 22:00:58 2000] Askaria hugs Coladar.
[Thu Mar 30 22:01:05 2000] Coladar hugs Askaria.
[Thu Mar 30 22:01:17 2000] Eleysian says, 'that we have been doing and is currently in the works, anyone wishing to join is free to do so.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:01:58 2000] Padawon says, 'what would it consist of raids and such?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:02:05 2000] You say, 'thank Yerf?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:02:18 2000] Yerfdog declines his turn.
[Thu Mar 30 22:02:20 2000] Eleysian says, 'Eventually, each guild will be able to create their own part in the storyline.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:02:21 2000] Padawon says, 'sorry =)'
[Thu Mar 30 22:02:26 2000] You say, 'Tandara?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:03:07 2000] Yerfdog raises his hand.
[Thu Mar 30 22:03:11 2000] Tandara says, 'At the beginning Belce, you mentioned recruiting during wars, and also other events--was that discussed while I was LD?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:03:17 2000] You say, 'Yerf next'
[Thu Mar 30 22:03:27 2000] Yerfdog says, 'ok say when'
[Thu Mar 30 22:03:59 2000] You say, 'good question recruiting has not been discussed'
[Thu Mar 30 22:04:47 2000] You say, 'something to consider is recruiting not allowed during a state of war between guilds is disabled'
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:18 2000] Soleeb says, 'Sorry to interrupt, but I also must be heading out.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:26 2000] Eleysian says, 'Goodeve Soleeb.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:35 2000] Padawon bows before Soleeb.
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:37 2000] Padawon waves goodbye to Soleeb.
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:39 2000] Jzonn bows before Soleeb.
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:39 2000] Coladar bows before Soleeb.
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:39 2000] You say, 'thank you for comin Sol good luck with your tourney'
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:39 2000] Khala says, 'Goodnight Soleeb'
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:40 2000] Pippi says, 'night'
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:41 2000] Eleysian bows before Soleeb.
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:42 2000] Soleeb says, 'Nice to meet you all, hope to see some of you Saturday'
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:43 2000] Tandara says, 'Perhaps we should discuss this next time, then'
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:43 2000] Khala bows before Soleeb.
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:43 2000] Eleysian beams a smile at Soleeb.
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:46 2000] Padawon says, 'nite and good journeys'
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:48 2000] Nausicaa says, 'nite!'
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:50 2000] Tandara says, 'goodnight soleeb'
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:50 2000] Jzonn says, 'Good bye.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:51 2000] Pippi says, 'ok, next topic? )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:55 2000] Soleeb bows to all.
[Thu Mar 30 22:05:58 2000] Yerfdog says, 'my turn?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:06:56 2000] You say, 'evil guilds in the council Intemotestia nox and Tandara's we welcome them to the council and hope they can bring their unique flavour to it'
[Thu Mar 30 22:07:13 2000] Pippi says, 'rar )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:07:21 2000] Jzonn tells you, 'Yerf needs to get a say in.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:07:31 2000] Tandara bows.
[Thu Mar 30 22:07:44 2000] Padawon cheers at Tandara.
[Thu Mar 30 22:08:02 2000] Yerfdog raises his hand.
[Thu Mar 30 22:08:03 2000] You say, 'At this time we wish to let them be known for interraction purpose with the not evil guilds, Yerf your turn sorry'
[Thu Mar 30 22:08:26 2000] Yerfdog clears his throat.
[Thu Mar 30 22:08:45 2000] You told Jzonn, 'thank you'
[Thu Mar 30 22:08:51 2000] Tandara wonders if "good" is considered a perjorative by the good races, too ;-)
[Thu Mar 30 22:08:56 2000] Pippi wonders if dwarves are in toastmasters.
[Thu Mar 30 22:09:23 2000] Yerfdog says, 'umm, speaking on behalf of the Shield of Kaladim, I just wanted to thank you for letting us sit in. The meeting has been inciteful. We are presently looking for an alliance, and have a couple in mind at moment'
[Thu Mar 30 22:09:43 2000] You say, 'good to hear'
[Thu Mar 30 22:09:45 2000] Yerfdog says, 'We will be considering such an alliance with this group as well, Thank you again'
[Thu Mar 30 22:09:48 2000] Pippi says, 'a couple?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:09:55 2000] Yerfdog says, 'wel two to be exact'
[Thu Mar 30 22:09:56 2000] Pippi stares at Yerfdog )
[Thu Mar 30 22:10:02 2000] Khala grins.
[Thu Mar 30 22:10:06 2000] Yerfdog nudges Pippi.
[Thu Mar 30 22:10:07 2000] Eleysian chuckles.
[Thu Mar 30 22:10:10 2000] Sacred has defeated Seungjin in a duel to the death!
[Thu Mar 30 22:10:18 2000] Jzonn reminds Pippi that staring is impolite.
[Thu Mar 30 22:10:22 2000] Pippi says, 'what is this? Who wants to marry a dwarf? )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:10:32 2000] You say, 'a drawf'
[Thu Mar 30 22:10:32 2000] Yerfdog thinks Pippi is curious.
[Thu Mar 30 22:10:42 2000] Padawon says, 'good point'
[Thu Mar 30 22:10:42 2000] Pippi gently reminds Jzonn that most dwarves won't notice because they are drunk.
[Thu Mar 30 22:10:44 2000] Tandara says, 'amazingly, some even marry humans'
[Thu Mar 30 22:10:50 2000] Jzonn says, 'True.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:11:05 2000] Etendards giggles at Yerfdog.
[Thu Mar 30 22:11:08 2000] Pippi says, 'who is our competition? )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:11:27 2000] Pippi nudges Yerfdog.
[Thu Mar 30 22:11:45 2000] You say, 'anything that needs to be said at this time on?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:11:46 2000] Yerfdog says, 'I knew I was forgetting something, thanksPippi'
[Thu Mar 30 22:11:48 2000] Eleysian raises her hand.
[Thu Mar 30 22:11:59 2000] Jusaridus raises  hand.
[Thu Mar 30 22:12:06 2000] You say, 'go Jus'
[Thu Mar 30 22:12:10 2000] Yerfdog belches loudly.
[Thu Mar 30 22:12:16 2000] Yerfdog says, 'Oops, scuse me'
[Thu Mar 30 22:12:18 2000] Jusaridus says, 'Eleysian was first'
[Thu Mar 30 22:12:24 2000] Jzonn hands Yerfdog a napkin.
[Thu Mar 30 22:12:27 2000] You say, 'ok thank you '
[Thu Mar 30 22:12:34 2000] You say, 'Ele?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:12:43 2000] Yerfdog winks suggestively at Pippi.
[Thu Mar 30 22:12:48 2000] Tandara decides these are the people her mother warned her about.
[Thu Mar 30 22:12:56 2000] Khala laughs.
[Thu Mar 30 22:12:59 2000] Pippi shivers at the thought of messing with Yerfdog.
[Thu Mar 30 22:13:02 2000] Jzonn chuckles.
[Thu Mar 30 22:13:15 2000] Eleysian says, 'This is just a reminder for everyone who has yet to post on the Karana Council forum for the number of reps from each guild to come to the council meetings, please remember to vote so we can get that straightened out :)'
[Thu Mar 30 22:13:32 2000] You say, 'good thought'
[Thu Mar 30 22:13:45 2000] Padawon says, 'oops ok =)'
[Thu Mar 30 22:13:51 2000] Eleysian grins.
[Thu Mar 30 22:13:54 2000] Nausicaa says, 'thank you tengo shall vote. also, may we bring the next topic to bear, the planes raids?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:13:57 2000] You say, 'Time for Jus?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:14:05 2000] Santel has defeated Redale in a duel to the death! Redale has fled like a cowardly dog!
[Thu Mar 30 22:14:08 2000] You say, 'then planes'
[Thu Mar 30 22:14:08 2000] Yerfdog realizes he is out of ale.
[Thu Mar 30 22:14:14 2000] Nausicaa says, 'ok )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:14:18 2000] Pippi chuckles at Yerfdog.
[Thu Mar 30 22:14:21 2000] Jzonn comforts Yerfdog.
[Thu Mar 30 22:14:26 2000] Padawon offers yerfdog some wine.
[Thu Mar 30 22:14:41 2000] Pippi says, 'hey!'
[Thu Mar 30 22:14:42 2000] Yerfdog chuckles.
[Thu Mar 30 22:14:43 2000] You say, 'Jus has the floor'
[Thu Mar 30 22:15:00 2000] Jusaridus says, 'First of all, I am representing Sacred Allegiance, a relatively new guild, and I want to thank you all for giving me an oppurtunity to sit in on the meeting'
[Thu Mar 30 22:15:03 2000] Jusaridus bows.
[Thu Mar 30 22:15:13 2000] Tandara smiles encouragingly.
[Thu Mar 30 22:15:22 2000] Khala smiles.
[Thu Mar 30 22:15:56 2000] You told Pippi, 'are you Pippi on the karana board?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:15:57 2000] Yerfdog winks at Pippi.
[Thu Mar 30 22:16:04 2000] Yerfdog says, 'See ya toot '
[Thu Mar 30 22:16:08 2000] Jusaridus says, 'OOC: My question is Does the council have any plans if the Karana Server is indeed split sometime in the near future?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:16:09 2000] Etendards waves goodbye to everyone.
[Thu Mar 30 22:16:11 2000] Pippi tells you, 'I think it will be better if I say no )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:16:13 2000] Etendards waves goodbye to everyone.
[Thu Mar 30 22:16:15 2000] Etendards waves goodbye to everyone.
[Thu Mar 30 22:16:15 2000] Pippi says, 'bye etendards )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:16:23 2000] Yerfdog waves at Pippi.
[Thu Mar 30 22:16:24 2000] Pippi says, 'bye other dwarf )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:16:27 2000] Eleysian raises her hand in response.
[Thu Mar 30 22:16:28 2000] Jzonn wave goodbye to Etendards.
[Thu Mar 30 22:16:33 2000] Tandara says, 'goodbye etendards'
[Thu Mar 30 22:16:38 2000] Nausicaa says, 'see you at Sol B et! )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:16:52 2000] Etendards says, 'See ya nau'
[Thu Mar 30 22:16:56 2000] You say, 'Ele would like to respond'
[Thu Mar 30 22:17:22 2000] Nausicaa nods at Coladar.
[Thu Mar 30 22:17:38 2000] Eleysian says, 'In response to an OOC Karana Server split, I believe that would be a guild/person by person determination and should have no bearing on the council's status as a council on this server.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:17:39 2000] You say, 'can Ele have the floor?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:18:05 2000] Jzonn agrees.
[Thu Mar 30 22:18:06 2000] Tandara nods.
[Thu Mar 30 22:18:18 2000] Eleysian says, 'We would, I imagine simply start anew on another server with communication between the councils.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:18:26 2000] Eleysian says, 'On both servers.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:18:30 2000] You say, 'that are there yes'
[Thu Mar 30 22:18:36 2000] Khala nods.
[Thu Mar 30 22:18:43 2000] Tandara says, 'makes sense'
[Thu Mar 30 22:18:44 2000] Padawon agrees.
[Thu Mar 30 22:18:50 2000] Eleysian says, 'Anything we can do to promote this council and get more participation is highly desired'
[Thu Mar 30 22:18:50 2000] You say, 'both may be possible'
[Thu Mar 30 22:19:14 2000] Eleysian says, 'There are other councils on other servers, so we aren't the first. But we are giving an excellent example.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:19:41 2000] Pippi says, 'such as?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:20:52 2000] You say, 'The example we show is that of getting together, sharing experience and assistance for what we ant fromm this time here'
[Thu Mar 30 22:20:54 2000] Eleysian says, 'Well, Getting guilds together to join in and participate with each other is a difficult task, we have overcome that. We are able to successfully communicate and interact with each other in a productive manner.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:21:17 2000] Pippi says, 'good )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:21:20 2000] Nausicaa says, 'Qob ls t eak of pes tnucation ans interactio on join raibs )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:21:22 2000] Eleysian says, 'Alliances that have been formed through this council, have been strong, active, and nurturing. Something this realm needs.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:21:23 2000] Pippi says, 'was just testing )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:21:42 2000] You say, 'to help each other have a good experience for their respective guilds'
[Thu Mar 30 22:22:13 2000] You say, 'anything else at this point?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:22:27 2000] Padawon gets better at learning the language of drunks
[Thu Mar 30 22:22:33 2000] You say, 'hehe'
[Thu Mar 30 22:22:34 2000] Tandara says, 'so we are going to put recruiting and the planes on the agenda for next mtg?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:22:39 2000] Nausicaa says, 'Yew'
[Thu Mar 30 22:22:42 2000] Nausicaa says, 'Mo would lipe that'
[Thu Mar 30 22:22:45 2000] You say, 'not done yet'
[Thu Mar 30 22:22:53 2000] Tandara says, 'ok'
[Thu Mar 30 22:23:06 2000] Eleysian says, 'Actually I think that topic was to be brought up tonight.. '
[Thu Mar 30 22:23:15 2000] Tandara says, 'sorry thought opening the floor was last thing'
[Thu Mar 30 22:23:20 2000] You say, 'The planes are ready to be discussed now?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:23:27 2000] Jzonn nods.
[Thu Mar 30 22:23:27 2000] Padawon says, 'k'
[Thu Mar 30 22:23:31 2000] Eleysian says, 'aye'
[Thu Mar 30 22:23:32 2000] Tandara says, 'thought maybe we were winding down sorry'
[Thu Mar 30 22:23:34 2000] Pippi says, 'I'm afraid I have to bow out soon, getting too late for me'
[Thu Mar 30 22:23:44 2000] You say, 'ok Pippi '
[Thu Mar 30 22:24:03 2000] Coladar says, 'I must do the same . I'll hold off until we finish discussing the planes, however'
[Thu Mar 30 22:24:29 2000] You say, 'the planes then now Teng clan '
[Thu Mar 30 22:24:53 2000] You say, 'please excuse my spelling'
[Thu Mar 30 22:24:59 2000] Nausicaa says, 'Cola shall tak fof tenge'
[Thu Mar 30 22:25:06 2000] You say, 'ok'
[Thu Mar 30 22:25:16 2000] Coladar says, 'Heh, I'm afraid our one member had a bit too much to drink . ) However .'
[Thu Mar 30 22:25:35 2000] Khala giggles.
[Thu Mar 30 22:25:37 2000] Padawon says, 'here ill catch up then =)'
[Thu Mar 30 22:25:45 2000] Nausicaa pokes Coladar.
[Thu Mar 30 22:26:00 2000] Coladar says, 'Obviously some of us in each guild are getting to the point where the planes are in the future. However, we certainly don't have enough people in our own guilds to have a chance at surviving a trip to Fear, Hate or Sky .'
[Thu Mar 30 22:26:02 2000] Nausicaa should NOT stand up..oooh.
[Thu Mar 30 22:26:24 2000] You say, 'or even giants'
[Thu Mar 30 22:26:24 2000] Padawon seconds that
[Thu Mar 30 22:26:32 2000] Khala nods in agreement.
[Thu Mar 30 22:26:35 2000] You say, 'or dragons'
[Thu Mar 30 22:26:38 2000] Coladar says, 'Thus, we are interested in hearing opinions on Plane raids, and even dragon raids. It had been mentioned on the message board that we would leave our guild for each raid...'
[Thu Mar 30 22:26:38 2000] Jzonn agrees.
[Thu Mar 30 22:26:50 2000] Pippi says, 'saw that'
[Thu Mar 30 22:26:53 2000] Coladar says, 'For leaders, that is not a viable option, but for officers and members, might be the best choice'
[Thu Mar 30 22:27:00 2000] Pippi begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Mar 30 22:27:04 2000] Pippi is surrounded by a brief lupine aura.
[Thu Mar 30 22:27:09 2000] Tandara says, 'I am not clear what difference it makes'
[Thu Mar 30 22:27:16 2000] Sir Penan begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Mar 30 22:27:20 2000] Pippi says, 'guildtell?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:27:23 2000] Jzonn says, 'Communication is the issue.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:27:24 2000] Sir Noshon begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Mar 30 22:27:25 2000] Coladar says, 'A leader would have to transfer their power to another member'
[Thu Mar 30 22:27:26 2000] Eleysian says, 'Aye..I am inclined to ask that question..'
[Thu Mar 30 22:27:26 2000] Tandara says, 'Ah I see'
[Thu Mar 30 22:27:35 2000] Padawon says, 'Ooh'
[Thu Mar 30 22:27:49 2000] Coladar says, 'The communication between 5 groups is crucial. Thus, being in the same guild would allow us to converse.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:28:06 2000] Tandara says, 'so we would form or join one guild for the raid, is the concept'
[Thu Mar 30 22:28:10 2000] Coladar says, 'Otherwise we would have to rely on tells between the leaders of the groups'
[Thu Mar 30 22:28:14 2000] Nausicaa says, 'YESH!'
[Thu Mar 30 22:28:15 2000] Khala nods.
[Thu Mar 30 22:28:24 2000] Padawon says, 'Very good point'
[Thu Mar 30 22:28:30 2000] Pippi bows before Pippi.
[Thu Mar 30 22:28:31 2000] Tandara says, 'ok got the idea '
[Thu Mar 30 22:28:32 2000] Tandara smiles.
[Thu Mar 30 22:28:34 2000] Pippi bows.
[Thu Mar 30 22:28:39 2000] You told Pippi, 'will look for you on eqvault'
[Thu Mar 30 22:28:40 2000] Coladar says, 'Yes... Obviously leaders would have an option to stay, or they could transfer power for a short time.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:28:43 2000] Pippi tells you, 'okies'
[Thu Mar 30 22:28:54 2000] Jzonn says, 'Does anyone know how the other guild alliance doing the planes and dragons handles this?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:29:08 2000] Padawon says, 'We have had ppl leave our guild so they can do plain raides ( this would benifit us greatly'
[Thu Mar 30 22:29:18 2000] You told Pippi, 'right that is yours looks like fun'
[Thu Mar 30 22:29:20 2000] Padawon says, 'Not sure'
[Thu Mar 30 22:29:28 2000] Pippi tells you, 'yea, but off to a slow start so far )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:29:30 2000] Pippi begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Mar 30 22:30:26 2000] Coladar says, 'I'm unaware of any events similar, having members of many guilds join one guild for the raid... But I believe it is really one of the only options, and seeing as how the "uber" guilds do raids with a fair amount of ease, the group-wide chat is quite a he'
[Thu Mar 30 22:30:28 2000] You say, 'the council can help with this and also in contacting guilds already on those hunts '
[Thu Mar 30 22:31:06 2000] You say, 'OOC there is roger wilco as well a free program allowing voice communication'
[Thu Mar 30 22:31:27 2000] Jzonn says, 'There is another collective of guilds taking on planes and dragons. I don't recall their name, but they must deal with this issue. We would be wise to get input from them.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:31:31 2000] Eleysian says, 'Good point.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:31:47 2000] Coladar says, 'Yes... Another option that should be considered. I have used those before, and while not perfect, it is something else to put on the table'
[Thu Mar 30 22:31:50 2000] Padawon says, 'Aahh yes love roger hehe'
[Thu Mar 30 22:32:10 2000] You say, 'I know people that are on those hunts and can talk to them about this as well'
[Thu Mar 30 22:32:14 2000] Eleysian says, 'The other guilds go in groups, calling out say 1-7, then a series of shouts and OOC while in planes requesting help/or just comments.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:32:20 2000] Coladar says, 'I believe more people feel at easy reading typing, though. I've encountered problems in large groupw with people talking over other people.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:32:33 2000] You say, 'true'
[Thu Mar 30 22:32:43 2000] Tandara says, 'It is certainly easier to have a meeting this way'
[Thu Mar 30 22:34:22 2000] Nausicaa hugs Coladar.
[Thu Mar 30 22:34:23 2000] Nausicaa waves at Coladar.
[Thu Mar 30 22:34:25 2000] Coladar says, 'I'm afraid I must depart now... Getting late. I feel we got quite a bit out of this meeting, and hope we can hold them on a regular basis'
[Thu Mar 30 22:34:32 2000] Tandara says, 'goodbye coladar'
[Thu Mar 30 22:34:35 2000] Coladar says, 'Good night, and good hunting all'
[Thu Mar 30 22:34:38 2000] Nache begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Mar 30 22:34:39 2000] Coladar waves goodbye to everyone.
[Thu Mar 30 22:34:41 2000] Eleysian says, 'Goodeve.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:34:41 2000] Jzonn says, 'Bye Coladar.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:34:45 2000] Padawon says, 'nite and good travels'
[Thu Mar 30 22:34:46 2000] Lalaani says, 'G'night '
[Thu Mar 30 22:34:46 2000] Eleysian looks around for Nache.
[Thu Mar 30 22:34:54 2000] Stormii raises her hand.
[Thu Mar 30 22:35:00 2000] You say, 'that would be good do not forget the forum for a continuation of these meetings'
[Thu Mar 30 22:35:22 2000] Nausicaa says, 'Cola is also leaving cause i am no longer drunk LOL'
[Thu Mar 30 22:35:36 2000] You say, 'report to your guilds what has happened here and post the feedback'
[Thu Mar 30 22:35:42 2000] Jzonn nods.
[Thu Mar 30 22:35:46 2000] Nausicaa says, 'Will do'
[Thu Mar 30 22:35:51 2000] Padawon nods.
[Thu Mar 30 22:35:53 2000] Tandara says, 'surely!'
[Thu Mar 30 22:36:31 2000] You say, 'is there anything else before the meeting is closed?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:36:46 2000] Stormii raises her hand.
[Thu Mar 30 22:36:48 2000] Nausicaa says, 'Just that you did a good job as mediator )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:36:55 2000] You say, 'Stormii'
[Thu Mar 30 22:36:56 2000] Jzonn agrees.
[Thu Mar 30 22:36:56 2000] Tandara agrees.
[Thu Mar 30 22:37:00 2000] Stormii clears her throat.
[Thu Mar 30 22:37:02 2000] Khala agrees.
[Thu Mar 30 22:37:16 2000] Stormii says, 'I have an observation and a question'
[Thu Mar 30 22:37:21 2000] You say, 'please'
[Thu Mar 30 22:37:44 2000] Stormii says, 'It is concerning the groups in Plane creating a guild for communication'
[Thu Mar 30 22:37:45 2000] Tandara regards Stormii interestedly.
[Thu Mar 30 22:38:48 2000] You nod.
[Thu Mar 30 22:38:48 2000] Stormii says, 'If all the members of the groups were high levels and guilded together - what would keep them from just staying in that guild? And'
[Thu Mar 30 22:39:34 2000] Nausicaa raises her hand.
[Thu Mar 30 22:39:58 2000] Stormii says, 'regarding the leadership transfer what would keep the ppl you turn over leadership to - what would keep them from refusing to step back down and release leadership once again back to the original leader'
[Thu Mar 30 22:40:16 2000] Stormii says, 'I jsut see a few problems with that whole idea'
[Thu Mar 30 22:40:23 2000] Eleysian nods.
[Thu Mar 30 22:40:27 2000] Tandara says, 'Hehe trust and loyalty, mostly--nothing keeps them from doing that now, though'
[Thu Mar 30 22:40:30 2000] You say, 'those are valid points '
[Thu Mar 30 22:41:05 2000] Khala says, 'You would certainly have to trust that person, yes'
[Thu Mar 30 22:41:16 2000] Eleysian says, 'The guild is a good idea in theory... but there has to be a....safer way, perhaps.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:41:18 2000] Nausicaa says, 'that's all i wanted to say too- tengoku trusts high lvls to come back, if they leave, they would have eventually anyhoo )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:41:20 2000] You say, 'this council can not and would not stop anyone from leaving any guild, that is a matter that the guild itself must answer'
[Thu Mar 30 22:41:33 2000] Stormii says, 'yes but the possibility is still there if the leader remains gone to long and is deemed by the guild to be unfit'
[Thu Mar 30 22:41:43 2000] Khala nods in agreement to both points mentioned.
[Thu Mar 30 22:41:45 2000] Tandara says, 'yes, /guildremove is a quick command'
[Thu Mar 30 22:42:42 2000] You say, 'this council can help get people to those places but we can not interfer with the guild they come from'
[Thu Mar 30 22:42:48 2000] Tandara says, 'It does feel something like changing your citizenship, though, to leave the guild and join another... even temporarily'
[Thu Mar 30 22:43:10 2000] Nausicaa says, 'just for the record, our guildleader Askaria would never be considered unfit, especially if she represented the name of Tengoku well in a joint effort )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:43:49 2000] Khala nods and smiles.
[Thu Mar 30 22:44:02 2000] Eleysian says, 'Perhaps something like the buddy system can be instituted for the planes raids'
[Thu Mar 30 22:44:15 2000] Tandara says, 'I think Belce has said it well, that it is really a matter for each guild to decide'
[Thu Mar 30 22:44:22 2000] Nausicaa agrees.
[Thu Mar 30 22:44:23 2000] You say, 'for this council if it was to put forward a group for the planes we could say that you can not stay in the guild after the raid and your guild must accept you back as you were to be able to send others again'
[Thu Mar 30 22:44:49 2000] Tandara nods appreciatively.
[Thu Mar 30 22:44:53 2000] Stormii says, 'Belce I realize the council cannot step in matters of this nature but since it was brought up in this meeting about the guilding of the plane raids int he first place I thought I would bring those points to light'
[Thu Mar 30 22:45:13 2000] You say, 'they are worthy points to discuss'
[Thu Mar 30 22:45:22 2000] Eleysian smiles at Stormii.
[Thu Mar 30 22:45:26 2000] Khala says, 'Yes, they are'
[Thu Mar 30 22:45:31 2000] Nausicaa says, 'after a raid the honorable leader can remove ALL )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:45:50 2000] Tandara says, 'I like the suggestion you made Belce, about Council policy--'
[Thu Mar 30 22:45:51 2000] Jzonn says, 'Hmm. What would be the status of the temp guild? Wouldn't we need to create the guild from scratch each time?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:45:52 2000] Padawon says, 'this is true'
[Thu Mar 30 22:46:01 2000] Eleysian says, 'Let's also take into consideration..it takes ten people to guildcreate AND it takes time to get it submitted'
[Thu Mar 30 22:46:05 2000] Eleysian says, 'And then accepted'
[Thu Mar 30 22:46:12 2000] Khala nods.
[Thu Mar 30 22:46:20 2000] Snoova begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Mar 30 22:46:21 2000] You say, 'and since the council is not a guild the council guild raid party can only be tempary'
[Thu Mar 30 22:46:23 2000] Bangoo agrees.
[Thu Mar 30 22:46:39 2000] Tandara says, 'again success will depend on good planning'
[Thu Mar 30 22:46:47 2000] Jzonn agrees.
[Thu Mar 30 22:46:48 2000] Nausicaa says, 'you may have a mule be the leader, invite all at a common place, this leader does not need to be a plane raider, can even be lvl one )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:46:52 2000] Padawon says, 'then we can have a new guild that is in the council do it every time...1 week it is silver daggers...one week dark oracle and so on and so forth'
[Thu Mar 30 22:46:55 2000] Eleysian says, 'Aye, we don't wish the council to represented as a "ruling Body" because we are not.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:47:05 2000] You say, 'true such a guild could be created for that sole purpose.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:47:34 2000] You say, 'and used only for that reason, all memebers removed at the end'
[Thu Mar 30 22:47:48 2000] You say, 'except the guild leader a non entity'
[Thu Mar 30 22:48:10 2000] Nausicaa says, 'yes, for continuity.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:48:26 2000] Khala agrees.
[Thu Mar 30 22:48:44 2000] Tandara says, 'That way the council will not be in a position of seeming to recruit high levels away from their guilds--NOT what we are about!'
[Thu Mar 30 22:48:59 2000] You say, 'true'
[Thu Mar 30 22:49:27 2000] Ozzwald says, 'almost at bank'
[Thu Mar 30 22:49:30 2000] Nausicaa says, 'LOL can you imagine anyone threatened by a level one guildleader banding and disbanding at FP? )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:49:31 2000] Tandara says, 'Speaking for my own guild, I trust all my higher level guildmates to be loyal to GOI because they like belonging to it...'
[Thu Mar 30 22:49:49 2000] Tandara says, 'LOL yes pretty nonthreatening'
[Thu Mar 30 22:50:08 2000] Tandara says, 'IF they didn't want to be a part I would not want to stop them leaving...'
[Thu Mar 30 22:50:19 2000] Jzonn agrees.
[Thu Mar 30 22:50:26 2000] Tandara says, 'IMHO you understand'
[Thu Mar 30 22:50:59 2000] Nausicaa says, 'good discussion all but i must now leave )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:51:09 2000] You say, 'are there any guilds here that have members that can go on these as yet?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:51:10 2000] Jzonn says, 'Bye Naus.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:51:20 2000] Nausicaa says, 'will there be a transcript on the webpage?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:51:21 2000] Tandara says, 'now that IS a good question! LOL'
[Thu Mar 30 22:51:22 2000] Eleysian says, 'We are about to have a few'
[Thu Mar 30 22:51:24 2000] You say, 'thank you for your time'
[Thu Mar 30 22:51:28 2000] Jzonn says, 'We have have two.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:51:32 2000] Nausicaa says, 'we have one.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:51:33 2000] You say, 'yes am logging this'
[Thu Mar 30 22:51:40 2000] Tandara says, 'as I am lvl 17 I can ask what lvl do you need to be?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:51:45 2000] Nausicaa says, '46+'
[Thu Mar 30 22:51:46 2000] Jzonn says, 'More on the up swing for this.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:51:48 2000] Tandara says, 'ok'
[Thu Mar 30 22:51:55 2000] Silten has defeated Leinad in a duel to the death! Leinad has fled like a cowardly dog!
[Thu Mar 30 22:52:00 2000] Tandara says, 'not yet but some working on it'
[Thu Mar 30 22:52:03 2000] Nausicaa says, 'yes within a month estimated 7 to goto planes.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:52:04 2000] You say, 'and it is difficult to get space at 46'
[Thu Mar 30 22:52:48 2000] Padawon says, 'within a month we should have about 3 or 4 i think'
[Thu Mar 30 22:52:52 2000] You say, 'I will see what I can do about contacting others for those now'
[Thu Mar 30 22:53:11 2000] Nausicaa says, 'take care all )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:53:14 2000] Nausicaa waves.
[Thu Mar 30 22:53:15 2000] You say, 'if that is acceptable'
[Thu Mar 30 22:53:18 2000] Tandara says, 'goodbye nausicaa'
[Thu Mar 30 22:53:18 2000] Jzonn says, 'Later Naus.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:53:21 2000] Khala says, 'Goodnight Nausicaa )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:53:23 2000] Padawon says, 'bye!'
[Thu Mar 30 22:53:26 2000] Stormii says, 'bye Nausicaa'
[Thu Mar 30 22:53:38 2000] Tandara nods.
[Thu Mar 30 22:53:43 2000] Khala nods
[Thu Mar 30 22:54:12 2000] You say, 'is there any other outstanding business to discuss?'
[Thu Mar 30 22:54:35 2000] Eleysian says, 'Nae here.'
[Thu Mar 30 22:54:36 2000] Tandara says, 'None here'
[Thu Mar 30 22:54:46 2000] Padawon says, 'nope =)'
[Thu Mar 30 22:55:44 2000] You say, 'thank you for your time and input Haemish apologizes that he was unable to attend'
[Thu Mar 30 22:55:56 2000] You bow.
[Thu Mar 30 22:56:05 2000] Tandara says, 'I have not met Haemish but you did very well Belce'
[Thu Mar 30 22:56:06 2000] Padawon bows.
[Thu Mar 30 22:56:10 2000] You say, 'this meeting is adjourned'
[Thu Mar 30 22:56:11 2000] Eleysian smiles and inclines her head in a bow.
[Thu Mar 30 22:56:13 2000] Tandara bows.
[Thu Mar 30 22:56:13 2000] Khala says, 'Well, you did a fine job Belce, thank you )'
[Thu Mar 30 22:56:17 2000] Padawon says, 'Yes i agree'

 

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