The Council of Guilds met on Thursday, Feb. 17 in a tavern in Highpass Hold. Below is the log from that meeting, edited to remove /tells, /shouts, /ooc and anything else not relevant to the discussion. There are pictures from the meeting posted in the Gallery. I have split this into 2 pages as it is very large.

[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] Players on EverQuest:
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[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [ANONYMOUS] Gerrymand
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [26 Cleric] Jarro (Dwarf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [26 Paladin] Aegiral (Half Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [40 Warrior] Galdaran (Wood Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [19 Warrior] Rasemlo (Wood Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [48 Bard] Raiel (Half Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [ANONYMOUS] Xanro
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [17 Paladin] Keyn (Half Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [49 Druid] Deodrid (Wood Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [41 Ranger] Celegorm (Wood Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [3 Paladin] Morderin (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [ANONYMOUS] Paulo
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [25 Shaman] Mairi (Barbarian)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [23 Ranger] Daruin (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [ANONYMOUS] Zeorymer
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [19 Shadow Knight] Sthinn (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [37 Warrior] Talkum (Barbarian)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [18 Ranger] Khamael (Wood Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [21 Monk] Vahan (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [ANONYMOUS] Nikolos
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [ANONYMOUS] Toredorm
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [38 Monk] Sentress (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [21 Monk] Jinjin (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [29 Magician] Aeropian (High Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [18 Paladin] Sanaddil (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [19 Paladin] Demamdar (Half Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [20 Cleric] Saina (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [ANONYMOUS] Zendel
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [17 Druid] Dmex (Wood Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:08 2000] [18 Ranger] Kelpo (Wood Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:09 2000] [22 Enchanter] Vanissa (High Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:09 2000] [41 Paladin] Miathan (High Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:09 2000] [18 Rogue] Sneakythumb (Barbarian)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:09 2000] [39 Cleric] Skrimgeour (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:09 2000] [39 Paladin] Nute (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:09 2000] [19 Ranger] Kesarn (Half Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:09 2000] [14 Bard] Dumas (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:09 2000] [28 Druid] Arlean (Wood Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:09 2000] [19 Ranger] Ralvarian (Half Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:09 2000] [19 Bard] Jothriel (Half Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:09 2000] [16 Warrior] Muin (Barbarian)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:09 2000] [18 Enchanter] Benniliea (Erudite)
[Thu Feb 17 20:08:09 2000] [19 Warrior] Haemish (Barbarian)

[Thu Feb 17 20:08:09 2000] There are 43 players in Highpass Hold.
[Thu Feb 17 20:13:18 2000] You say, 'We've got a few stragglers that will come in as they arrive, but we'll go ahead and begin the discussion.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:13:36 2000] Keyn says, 'We are all ears'
[Thu Feb 17 20:13:45 2000] Ralvarian takes his seat and listens intently.
[Thu Feb 17 20:13:50 2000] Nikolos says, 'Or eyes as the case may be )'

[Thu Feb 17 20:14:08 2000] Toredorm says, 'well, you Elves have more ear than we barbs'
[Thu Feb 17 20:14:17 2000] Deodrid says, 'and brains'
[Thu Feb 17 20:14:17 2000] Xzarann says, 'Hello everyone'
[Thu Feb 17 20:14:22 2000] Tarhg says, 'Hail'
[Thu Feb 17 20:14:22 2000] Xzarann waves at Ralvarian.
[Thu Feb 17 20:14:24 2000] Toredorm says, 'i don't know about that'
[Thu Feb 17 20:14:26 2000] Ralvarian says, 'Xzarann'
[Thu Feb 17 20:14:31 2000] Deodrid says, 'point proven'
[Thu Feb 17 20:14:31 2000] Ralvarian says, 'Hail good ally, I saved you a spot right here'
[Thu Feb 17 20:14:52 2000] Ralvarian says, 'Well, looks like it is taken, lol'
[Thu Feb 17 20:15:21 2000] You say, 'In order to prevent chaos, I'm going to ask that we only have one speaker at a time.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:15:30 2000] Keyn says, 'Everyone get comfortable, this could take a while'
[Thu Feb 17 20:15:53 2000] Toredorm throws a mug at Keyn for interrupting.
[Thu Feb 17 20:16:42 2000] You say, 'I'd like to just mention the guilds that are here and some that are on their way'
[Thu Feb 17 20:17:06 2000] You say, 'Guilds that are on the way are Dark Oracles and Brethern of the Wolf'
[Thu Feb 17 20:17:26 2000] Xzarann says, 'Brethren of the Wolf is here'
[Thu Feb 17 20:17:31 2000] Ralvarian says, 'Sir, the Brethren leader is present'
[Thu Feb 17 20:17:36 2000] You say, 'I'm happy to see Masquerade of Shadows, Lords of Fallen Virtue, Blistered Souls'
[Thu Feb 17 20:17:46 2000] You say, 'Ahhh, ok, someone had said ye were held up in Kith'
[Thu Feb 17 20:17:53 2000] Deodrid says, 'may I request that drinking stop for the moment? I would like to understand the crude dialog :)'
[Thu Feb 17 20:17:57 2000] Xzarann says, 'Made it ok )'
[Thu Feb 17 20:18:00 2000] Ralvarian says, 'he was, he got here faster'
[Thu Feb 17 20:18:15 2000] Raiel tells you, 'House Kendan is present as well... My co-leader may be arriving late, also'
[Thu Feb 17 20:18:16 2000] You say, 'Brethern of the Wolf, Lore Guardians, Kindred of Norrath'
[Thu Feb 17 20:18:31 2000] You say, 'House Kendan, Spirit of Rivendell'
[Thu Feb 17 20:18:38 2000] Raiel tells you, 'but don't wait on him'
[Thu Feb 17 20:18:57 2000] You say, 'The Order of the Souls, The Haven, Sacred Order of Shadows'
[Thu Feb 17 20:19:13 2000] You say, 'Pact of Aegis'
[Thu Feb 17 20:19:17 2000] You say, 'Did I miss anyone?'
[Thu Feb 17 20:20:12 2000] You say, 'Dark Oracles, with 2 more members on the way'
[Thu Feb 17 20:20:25 2000] Vanissa says, 'kindred souls of norrath, haemish'
[Thu Feb 17 20:20:32 2000] You say, 'Kindred of Souls'
[Thu Feb 17 20:20:32 2000] Xzarann says, 'Brethren of the Wolf has one more on her way, she tends to get lost )'
[Thu Feb 17 20:20:44 2000] You giggle.
[Thu Feb 17 20:21:01 2000] You say, 'Should we wait on her Xzarann?'
[Thu Feb 17 20:21:06 2000] Skrimgeour chortles at the giggling barbarian.
[Thu Feb 17 20:21:20 2000] Xzarann says, 'She said to not hold up, I will fill her in once she gets here'
[Thu Feb 17 20:21:31 2000] Skrimgeour says, 'No disrespect but I feel we have quorum'
[Thu Feb 17 20:21:44 2000] You say, 'Also Dragon's Fire, just saw ye there'
[Thu Feb 17 20:22:07 2000] It is 6 AM on Friday, the 13th day of January, of the year 3176.
[Thu Feb 17 20:22:38 2000] Keyn says, 'can we plz speed this up a bit, it is late in my part of the world, and i have school tommorow'
[Thu Feb 17 20:22:39 2000] You say, 'Who else has members that are on the way? '
[Thu Feb 17 20:22:59 2000] Deodrid says, 'yes'
[Thu Feb 17 20:23:12 2000] Deodrid says, 'If they aren't here on time, they can read the log'
[Thu Feb 17 20:23:17 2000] You say, 'Also want to mention Morderin.... Deodrid, should we wait on yer other member?'
[Thu Feb 17 20:23:21 2000] Maela says, 'Get off the table Haemish'
[Thu Feb 17 20:23:23 2000] Sneakythumb says, 'Sarry ve have matters attewd to'
[Thu Feb 17 20:23:33 2000] Maela bonks Haemish on the head!
[Thu Feb 17 20:23:34 2000] Nute says, 'You snooze you lose...start please..appointments =)'
[Thu Feb 17 20:23:37 2000] Deodrid says, 'my other member is right here with me'
[Thu Feb 17 20:23:47 2000] You say, 'Ok, if everyone will sit we will begin'
[Thu Feb 17 20:23:50 2000] Ralvarian says, 'Maela, Haemish is the speaker and leader of the meeting, he can stand on the table if he so desires, hehe'
[Thu Feb 17 20:24:00 2000] Maela says, 'No, he is not allowed so :P'
[Thu Feb 17 20:24:33 2000] You say, 'I would like to run this meeting in a one speaker at a time forum to keep confusion down. Please give me a tell when ye wish to speak on a subject so that we can maintain order.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:24:51 2000] You say, 'I would especially like to thank those of ye who are here at VERY late times.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:25:30 2000] You say, 'I called this meeting together as I've noticed in my time that this server has a distinct lack of player-driven events that are well-publicized.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:25:52 2000] You say, 'We are one of the most populated servers, yet we seem to be silent in this regard. I would like this to change.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:26:08 2000] Xzarann says, 'Aye, I see our server name rarely on EQ sites for player run events.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:26:16 2000] Ralvarian tells you, 'Will there be a possible alliance meeting here too?'
[Thu Feb 17 20:26:20 2000] Vanissa nods at Haemish.
[Thu Feb 17 20:26:32 2000] Keyn nods.
[Thu Feb 17 20:26:37 2000] You say, 'This game can degenerate into hunt, camp, hunt, camp and get very boring. Player-driven events are the way to break up the tedium.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:27:13 2000] You say, 'I'd like to give some examples of what I mean by player driven events, then open the floor for suggestions.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:27:45 2000] Ralvarian tells you, 'How about any person who is allowed to speak stand on the table, therefore to prevent anarchy and chaos.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:27:46 2000] You say, 'But first, a few technical issues. I am logging this meeting, and plan to have a web page up on Saturday afternoon with that log.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:27:55 2000] You told Ralvarian, 'Aye, that's what I would like.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:28:23 2000] Kelpo tells you, 'i can help i am takin notes'
[Thu Feb 17 20:28:31 2000] You say, 'Also, I have begun an Email list on the Onelist site specifically for members of this body and other guild leaders who would like to discuss the same things. '
[Thu Feb 17 20:29:06 2000] You say, 'An email list would be very helpful in having everyone on the same page, without requiring huge in-game meetings like this.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:30:13 2000] You say, 'To sign up, go to http://www.onelist.com and register, then find the Onelist named Karanaguilds.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:31:11 2000] You say, 'I also would like to set up a web page with a forum on it specifically for announcements. I think email is a better platform for discussion, as it is easier to fit into daily life. At least into mine. :-)'
[Thu Feb 17 20:31:45 2000] Gerrymand )>
[Thu Feb 17 20:31:53 2000] Keyn nods.
[Thu Feb 17 20:31:57 2000] Maela nods at Haemish.
[Thu Feb 17 20:32:22 2000] You say, 'Another thing that I will want to discuss tonight is alliances, between our respective guilds. Whether they be in character or out, something to bind us together as a proactive group.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:33:15 2000] You say, 'As well, I'd like to discuss standard ways of interacting with guilds, including headhunting, recruiting, guildwars and cooperative things.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:33:29 2000] You say, 'Ok, first topic. Player-driven events.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:34:01 2000] Nute says, 'I have one question.....WHO are YOU?'
[Thu Feb 17 20:34:06 2000] You say, 'An example is Arena tournaments. My Clan is running a tournament Wednesday night in Freeport Arena.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:34:20 2000] Nute says, 'Did you play another character we may know of?'
[Thu Feb 17 20:34:23 2000] You say, 'Oooops, sorry to introduce myself. I am Haemish, Clan Chieftan of the Silver Daggers.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:34:37 2000] You say, 'No, this is the character you would know if you knew me.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:34:45 2000] Nute says, 'Ahhhh..ok'
[Thu Feb 17 20:34:51 2000] Aeropian says, 'Haemish, what is the time of this event, i would like to see it'
[Thu Feb 17 20:35:03 2000] Deodrid says, 'It's on EQvault'
[Thu Feb 17 20:35:10 2000] Toredorm raises his hand.
[Thu Feb 17 20:35:10 2000] You say, 'The event is at 8 pm Central time, Wednesday in the Freeport Arena.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:35:23 2000] Aeropian says, 'you will see me there'
[Thu Feb 17 20:35:32 2000] Vanissa says, 'excuse me Haemish, is this every wednesday?'
[Thu Feb 17 20:35:45 2000] You say, 'It's on the EQVault site. That is one important equation to doing player-driven events. Press.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:36:05 2000] You say, 'It's not every Wednesday night, but there is no reason that a different guild couldn't run one each week.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:36:18 2000] You say, 'Toredorm has something to say before he logs for an emergency.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:36:33 2000] You say, 'Toredorm, ye have the floor.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:36:38 2000] Toredorm says, 'Im sorry to do this all, but rl calls(kids) but i do wish to hear what happens'
[Thu Feb 17 20:37:24 2000] Toredorm says, 'Pact of Aegis is very interested in forming this alliance, and we do appologize for my departure'
[Thu Feb 17 20:38:26 2000] Toredorm says, 'what Haemish has to say so far, sounds like a VERY good idea, and PoA loks forward to working with you all'
[Thu Feb 17 20:38:39 2000] Toredorm says, 'but for now, i must bid you all fare well'
[Thu Feb 17 20:38:45 2000] Toredorm bows.
[Thu Feb 17 20:38:51 2000] Vanissa waves goodbye to Toredorm.
[Thu Feb 17 20:38:51 2000] Toredorm salutes the gods in pure admiration.
[Thu Feb 17 20:38:52 2000] Celegorm bows.
[Thu Feb 17 20:38:53 2000] Aeropian says, 'Was nice meeting you.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:38:59 2000] Xzarann waves goodbye to Toredorm.
[Thu Feb 17 20:39:04 2000] Maela says, 'Goodeve'
[Thu Feb 17 20:39:10 2000] You say, 'Thank ye Toredorm, and good eve tae ye.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:39:11 2000] Kelpo says, 'night'
[Thu Feb 17 20:39:14 2000] Siclayn says, 'see youy Tor'
[Thu Feb 17 20:39:34 2000] You say, 'Keyn ye also have somethin' tae say?'
[Thu Feb 17 20:39:39 2000] You say, 'Ye have the floor'
[Thu Feb 17 20:40:14 2000] Keyn says, 'first i would like to congradulate everyone on coming out here, this shows we have a spark of interest for this kind of thing on this server'
[Thu Feb 17 20:41:10 2000] Keyn says, 'my guild, although numbers are not so hot right now, is new and trying its hardest to stay together, we have been planning to run a dungeon raid for a whil now'
[Thu Feb 17 20:41:38 2000] Keyn says, 'we will fully support this and give any assistiance needed'
[Thu Feb 17 20:42:02 2000] You say, 'Ok, to make sure everyone knows, the events are of any type. Player events, storyline events, dungeon raids, roleplaying, any kind of player run event.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:42:32 2000] Keyn says, 'i hope to hunt with you all one day, may many fine journeys await you. The Order of Souls has spoken, always fight for the soul friends'
[Thu Feb 17 20:42:43 2000] Maela raises her hand.
[Thu Feb 17 20:42:46 2000] Keyn says, 'goodnight amigos'
[Thu Feb 17 20:43:03 2000] Tarhg says, 'gnite friend'
[Thu Feb 17 20:43:03 2000] You say, 'Now, here are some of the ideas I've had about server events. I'd also like to introduce my second, Belce Gaegwyn.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:43:06 2000] Aeropian says, 'Was nice to meet you Keyn.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:43:14 2000] You say, 'Good night Keyn, nice tae meet ye and thanks fer comin''
[Thu Feb 17 20:43:16 2000] Maela says, 'Goodeve Keyn.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:43:20 2000] Belce says, 'hello all and well met'
[Thu Feb 17 20:43:27 2000] Maela says, 'Goodeve Belce :)'
[Thu Feb 17 20:43:35 2000] Aella tries to brush the knots out of her hair.
[Thu Feb 17 20:44:29 2000] You say, 'Events.... Roleplaying events... these can go from running a full-blown story spanning the server, or one night's fun with small short stories. '
[Thu Feb 17 20:44:45 2000] Belce says, 'I apologize for being tardy the woods were not kind to me earlier'
[Thu Feb 17 20:44:48 2000] You say, 'The Heartstone Saga on Innoruk is a GREAT example of the full-blown type of event.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:45:11 2000] Aella says, 'for those of us who have not heard of such, will you explain it please?'
[Thu Feb 17 20:45:18 2000] Xzarann tells you, 'Elaborate on the Heartstone saga.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:45:20 2000] Vanissa nods at Aella.
[Thu Feb 17 20:45:24 2000] Aeropian nods.
[Thu Feb 17 20:45:33 2000] You say, 'This has spanned many months, many guilds, and is constantly updated on a web page. Two or 3 guilds are all searching for a mythological heartstone amulet.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:46:09 2000] You say, 'These guilds are constantly fighting over the prize, as it is a relic from the Combine era. There are constant updates to the Heartstone web page... but.....'
[Thu Feb 17 20:46:42 2000] You say, 'They also make sure that with every update, they post an item to the EQ News sites. EqVault, Stratics, etc.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:47:00 2000] Aella says, 'pardon me, but is there a real amulet?'
[Thu Feb 17 20:47:03 2000] You say, 'For any event to be successful, it needs to appear at least TWICE on one or more of these sites.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:47:05 2000] Aeropian says, 'May i ask for the address of this site?'
[Thu Feb 17 20:47:11 2000] Vanissa says, 'Haemish , the heartstone page, where is it?'
[Thu Feb 17 20:47:34 2000] Morderin says, 'is this a GM quest? it sounds as if it has to be...'
[Thu Feb 17 20:47:41 2000] You say, 'I'm not sure if there is a real amulet. The address should be linked off of the EQ Vault site, either in the links or news archives.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:47:59 2000] Siclayn says, 'i can give you the adress in 2 miunutes'
[Thu Feb 17 20:48:03 2000] Belce says, 'we can email the link to you as well '
[Thu Feb 17 20:48:12 2000] You say, 'They haven't found the amulet yet.. Sicalyn, if ye will look up the address please?'
[Thu Feb 17 20:48:35 2000] You say, 'Nikolos, ye had somethin' tae say on this? Ye have the floor'
[Thu Feb 17 20:49:10 2000] Nikolos says, 'Well, I try to keep my entire guild informed of all I can, and the guild has known abut this meeting ever since I found out about it'
[Thu Feb 17 20:49:52 2000] Nikolos says, 'I asked all our members to offer suggestions of things they would like me to bring up. A few of these have already been brought up by others, but 1 in particular I wanted to throw out to ya'
[Thu Feb 17 20:50:17 2000] Belce says, 'please'
[Thu Feb 17 20:50:20 2000] Nikolos says, 'It was asked if there would possibly be something organized, sort of like a "Council Of Guilds"'
[Thu Feb 17 20:50:35 2000] Nikolos says, 'Say, 1 officer forom each guild as sort of a rep on this council...'
[Thu Feb 17 20:50:38 2000] You say, 'Aye, that's what I hope this turns out to be'
[Thu Feb 17 20:50:45 2000] Nikolos says, 'To organize and plan such events.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:51:07 2000] Nikolos says, 'Ok, I like the general premise of what your trying to do, but you should keep in mind...'
[Thu Feb 17 20:51:17 2000] Morderin tells you, 'we could call it the Karana Alliance'
[Thu Feb 17 20:51:32 2000] Nikolos says, 'That with 6 or 7 guilds trying to plan 1 event, it will most likely wind up in disaster'
[Thu Feb 17 20:51:59 2000] Nikolos says, 'The best way to do it would be for 1 rep from each guild, sort of a perminate council... etc, to plan'
[Thu Feb 17 20:52:18 2000] Nikolos says, 'That way, even though it is say, 20 different guilds, that council can work as just 1 guild'
[Thu Feb 17 20:53:01 2000] Nikolos says, 'Thats all I wanted to say... for now atleast :-). Thanx'
[Thu Feb 17 20:53:24 2000] You say, 'Ok, Sic, ye had the web address for the Heartstone saga if ye'd announce it.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:53:36 2000] Siclayn says, 'yes '
[Thu Feb 17 20:54:03 2000] Siclayn says, 'www.geocities.com/fgheartstone/mythos.htm'
[Thu Feb 17 20:54:49 2000] You say, 'Ok, Deodrid, ye had somethin' tae say next. Ye have the floor'
[Thu Feb 17 20:54:56 2000] Belce says, 'Haemish can we put that link on our web page'
[Thu Feb 17 20:55:16 2000] Deodrid says, 'I think that this type of meeting and organization would be easier if we did it on a msg board'
[Thu Feb 17 20:55:27 2000] Deodrid says, 'that way, we have threads organized by topic'
[Thu Feb 17 20:55:44 2000] Deodrid says, 'meeting in game would be a little inconvenient to meet on a regular basis'
[Thu Feb 17 20:55:52 2000] Deodrid says, 'email lists are nice, but'
[Thu Feb 17 20:55:54 2000] Belce says, 'true'
[Thu Feb 17 20:56:03 2000] Vanissa says, 'agreed'
[Thu Feb 17 20:56:06 2000] Deodrid says, 'they tend to all come in same time, with no topic to tie the msgs'
[Thu Feb 17 20:56:19 2000] Deodrid says, 'this way we can all access it and leave ideas for events and issues'
[Thu Feb 17 20:56:33 2000] Deodrid says, 'a moderator could give access to GM's and officers only'
[Thu Feb 17 20:56:49 2000] Deodrid says, 'so that we don't have any member walk in and plaster spam'
[Thu Feb 17 20:57:20 2000] Deodrid says, 'another issue which isn't as big is that it gives time to type out msg'
[Thu Feb 17 20:57:35 2000] Deodrid says, 'for those who don't type as fast or can't think on their feet :P'
[Thu Feb 17 20:58:01 2000] Deodrid says, 'we could organize the forum into separate sub boards like events, alliances, raids etc'
[Thu Feb 17 20:58:32 2000] Deodrid says, 'but I would like to see us address issues such as handling arguments'
[Thu Feb 17 20:58:37 2000] Skrimgeour salutes Deodrid.
[Thu Feb 17 20:58:54 2000] Deodrid says, 'by having some sort of common etiquette set up'
[Thu Feb 17 20:59:02 2000] Xzarann raises his hand.
[Thu Feb 17 20:59:05 2000] Sentress says, 'Sorry for interrupting, but isn't this meeting just a premise of what everyone thinks about Haemish's idea? I don't think we are ironing out details about forums and what-not. I would like to hear more of Haemish's topics.'
[Thu Feb 17 20:59:13 2000] Deodrid says, 'so that we can all get along better'
[Thu Feb 17 20:59:31 2000] Aeropian agrees somewhat with sentress.
[Thu Feb 17 20:59:37 2000] Deodrid says, 'if that is the case, then I say I like it'
[Thu Feb 17 20:59:41 2000] Maela disagrees completely.
[Thu Feb 17 20:59:46 2000] Aella wrestles Ralvarian to the ground.
[Thu Feb 17 20:59:57 2000] Alleeta smiles.
[Thu Feb 17 20:59:58 2000] Deodrid says, 'Did I need to come here to agree with Haemish's idea?'
[Thu Feb 17 21:00:05 2000] Deodrid says, 'I yield to Haemish'
[Thu Feb 17 21:00:06 2000] Skrimgeour says, 'aye I like it and a message board will help us communcate much more quickly and efficiently than thos forum can'
[Thu Feb 17 21:00:11 2000] You say, 'Ok, one thing to clarify.. I want everyone's opinion.. this isn't just about my ideas.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:00:40 2000] Sentress says, 'I can't form a complete opinion with hearing your ideas.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:00:41 2000] You say, 'This is about our sever and our community and how we wish to build it.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:00:47 2000] Ralvarian says, 'I agree with anything and everything, I am open to all new idea's and would like to see some new events here'
[Thu Feb 17 21:00:53 2000] Vanissa would like to think we are planning for the future...to usher the age of enlightenment in Karana.
[Thu Feb 17 21:01:15 2000] You say, 'Thank ye Vanissa, that's a good idea of what this is about.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:01:26 2000] You say, 'Morderin, ye have the floor'
[Thu Feb 17 21:01:41 2000] Sentress says, 'Sure a Forum can help "enlighten" the future of Karana, however.. I don't think we know what the future of Karana is right now.. and being as such, how can we enlighten anything?'
[Thu Feb 17 21:02:17 2000] Vanissa says, 'and that is why we are here'
[Thu Feb 17 21:02:32 2000] Aeropian says, 'to "enlighten" the future of karana, we need to work fo rit, no tsit and wait'
[Thu Feb 17 21:02:49 2000] Celegorm says, 'very true... good point Aeronpian'
[Thu Feb 17 21:02:58 2000] Celegorm says, 'Aeropian sorry'
[Thu Feb 17 21:03:03 2000] Aeropian knows he cant type.
[Thu Feb 17 21:03:13 2000] Belce says, 'hehe'
[Thu Feb 17 21:03:15 2000] You say, 'Morderin ye have the floor'
[Thu Feb 17 21:03:30 2000] Morderin says, 'Thank you'
[Thu Feb 17 21:03:57 2000] Morderin says, 'First of all, I must thank Haemish for allowing me to be here tonight'
[Thu Feb 17 21:04:35 2000] Haemish nods at Morderin.
[Thu Feb 17 21:04:38 2000] Morderin says, 'even though I don't lead a guild, when I heard of this, I was very pleased that my beloved Karana was finally banding together'
[Thu Feb 17 21:05:36 2000] Morderin says, 'I believe what we must do now is form an alliance much like Somona did back in UO. this really helped back then, and I hope it will being excitement to the server'
[Thu Feb 17 21:06:05 2000] Ralvarian has a question for Morderin and his alliance idea.
[Thu Feb 17 21:06:46 2000] Morderin says, 'it would be great to have some sort of event every week, i'm sure everyone would enjoy this'
[Thu Feb 17 21:07:31 2000] Morderin says, 'Ralvarian has a question'
[Thu Feb 17 21:07:51 2000] Ralvarian says, 'Morderin, what do you mean by alliance, do you mean an alliance between all the guilds / leaders or alliance of specific guilds?'
[Thu Feb 17 21:08:02 2000] You say, 'I want to clarify one thing.... we are talking about a "working relationship" like a Council of Guilds to drive player driven events, not necessarily that we are ALL alllied togther in Character.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:08:46 2000] Morderin says, 'I believe we can utilize two types. a council, that has been mentioned before, and a general friendship.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:09:00 2000] Ralvarian says, 'Ok'
[Thu Feb 17 21:09:07 2000] Morderin says, 'thank you'
[Thu Feb 17 21:09:44 2000] You say, 'Ok, so we are discussing a Council of Guilds.... I have one comment to add on that.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:09:57 2000] Morderin says, 'in conclusion, thank you all for coming tonight, and I'm glad to see we are working together on this. thank you Haemish, and it is your floor once again.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:10:41 2000] You say, 'Whatever we do, that must be publicized... and one person in the council should be in charge of publicizing the Council of Guilds'
[Thu Feb 17 21:10:50 2000] Vanissa applauds the idea for a High Council of Karana.
[Thu Feb 17 21:11:01 2000] You say, 'Ok, Xza it's yer floor, then Maelea, then Scrim, then Alleeta'
[Thu Feb 17 21:11:15 2000] Maela excuses herself to pickup the stranger.
[Thu Feb 17 21:11:40 2000] Xzarann says, 'As we speak of becoming closer between guilds, I had an idea to further any communication between guilds. One way that we can become closer in relationship between all guilds is to see what each and every guild represents.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:12:22 2000] Xzarann says, 'I think that before the meeting is over, we should give out all guid websites, so that we can further look into what each and every guild represents.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:13:27 2000] Xzarann says, 'This will help us to look to know one another even better along with the Guild Council.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:13:32 2000] Nikolos says, 'giving out guild ur;ls will be tricky, forinstance, my guild, Lords of Fallen virtue, we have a site, but URL is tricky, and will be changing in a day or 3'
[Thu Feb 17 21:13:51 2000] Aeropian says, 'thats what you said last week niko =)'
[Thu Feb 17 21:13:56 2000] Skrimgeour says, 'we should distribute on Haemish's onelist....'
[Thu Feb 17 21:13:56 2000] Maela shouts, 'Tiger's Roar'
[Thu Feb 17 21:14:09 2000] You say, 'What I would like to suggest on that is that everyone EMAIL me their character name, guild name and URL...I will make a guild links page.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:14:25 2000] Vanissa nods at Haemish.
[Thu Feb 17 21:14:28 2000] Ralvarian says, 'Announce your email Haemish'
[Thu Feb 17 21:14:31 2000] Bangoo nods at Haemish.
[Thu Feb 17 21:14:35 2000] Xzarann says, 'Aye, well try and give the most accurate web address available , because I for one would like to see what each and every guild here believes in and practices.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:14:44 2000] You say, 'Email is [email protected]'
[Thu Feb 17 21:15:00 2000] Nikolos says, 'I agree, e-mailing the info to haemish for him to add links will make it easier for everyone to get aquainted with eachothers guild'
[Thu Feb 17 21:15:22 2000] Metalathen thinks we should intentionally mispell giuld for now..
[Thu Feb 17 21:15:32 2000] Vanissa says, 'Haemish you url, please'
[Thu Feb 17 21:15:36 2000] You say, 'I will send out a mass email to ye all, giving ye the location of the web pages. This will be Saturday.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:15:53 2000] You say, 'I will also post it to EQVault among other sites.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:16:01 2000] Rasemlo says, 'hmmmmmm'
[Thu Feb 17 21:16:15 2000] Sentress says, 'What topic are we on now?'
[Thu Feb 17 21:16:28 2000] Xzarann says, 'That was the little idea I wanted to add. Next to speak can take the floor'
[Thu Feb 17 21:16:30 2000] Sentress says, 'I'm taking notes.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:16:37 2000] Aeropian says, 'i think we were on the council'
[Thu Feb 17 21:16:41 2000] You say, 'We are talking about a Concil of Guilds. Maela you have the floor.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:17:50 2000] Maela says, 'Thank you. Disregarding the events topic as that seem to for the moment become a mute topic. I would like to address the Council issue. I agree that this Server needs a Council like that for more than just the creation of storylines and so forth. We'
[Thu Feb 17 21:18:43 2000] Maela says, 'need and have needed for a long time somewhere where we can all function up until now as a group. There will of course be differences. What my concerns are , will everyone, regardless of race, be represented equally.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:19:17 2000] Maela says, 'Also, I am assuming that this council, it will be a council, a democracy.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:19:19 2000] Bangoo nods agreeingly.
[Thu Feb 17 21:19:34 2000] Maela says, 'Not a dictatorship that most things here tend to be.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:20:11 2000] Maela says, 'I find it disappointing that one guild can take over all of Norrath and the others get left behind. IT needs to change.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:20:25 2000] Belce says, 'well spoken'
[Thu Feb 17 21:20:32 2000] Maela says, 'I am done, for the moment.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:20:32 2000] Binadar nods at Maela.
[Thu Feb 17 21:20:38 2000] Maela grins.
[Thu Feb 17 21:20:39 2000] Deodrid says, 'Don't think those guilds are present :P'
[Thu Feb 17 21:20:47 2000] Bangoo says, 'May i say something?'
[Thu Feb 17 21:20:49 2000] Ralvarian says, 'May I have the floor for a second?'
[Thu Feb 17 21:21:00 2000] You say, 'Ok, I believe Scrim ye were next..... I'm getting a lot of tells for the floor, so we must wait our turn.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:21:11 2000] Skrimgeour says, 'Thank you good gentles'
[Thu Feb 17 21:21:27 2000] Skrimgeour says, 'What I have seen tonight is heartening and I am glad to see so much intersest'
[Thu Feb 17 21:21:53 2000] Skrimgeour says, 'But I have coincerns. There is a great number of us gathered togehter in the moot, discussing weighty issues, that are not all cut and dried'
[Thu Feb 17 21:22:04 2000] Skrimgeour says, 'I think we all apploauud the concepts'
[Thu Feb 17 21:22:28 2000] Kelpo cheers everyone.
[Thu Feb 17 21:22:40 2000] Skrimgeour says, 'But I do not honeslty thinlk this is the best forum at the beginning. We could all respond to comments made, and our discussions must evolve'
[Thu Feb 17 21:23:18 2000] Skrimgeour says, 'We have had 7 people speak in an hour ina half. I suggest we set a firm end time to this meeting, and over the next week - take this to the Web where we can have much more involved discussion'
[Thu Feb 17 21:23:27 2000] Athos agrees.
[Thu Feb 17 21:23:34 2000] Aella nods.
[Thu Feb 17 21:23:34 2000] Deodrid agrees with everyone around /À´»o/agrees with everyone around /
[Thu Feb 17 21:23:36 2000] Gerrymand Agrees.
[Thu Feb 17 21:23:36 2000] Skrimgeour says, 'I applaud Haemish, and truly like this idea'
[Thu Feb 17 21:23:40 2000] Rasemlo disagrees.
[Thu Feb 17 21:23:41 2000] Maela disagrees.
[Thu Feb 17 21:23:46 2000] Vanissa nods at Haemish.
[Thu Feb 17 21:23:49 2000] Alleeta agrees.
[Thu Feb 17 21:23:49 2000] Bangoo agrees.
[Thu Feb 17 21:23:51 2000] Aeropian disagrees.
[Thu Feb 17 21:23:54 2000] Morderin applauds Haemish's performance.
[Thu Feb 17 21:23:55 2000] Belce agrees with Talai.
[Thu Feb 17 21:24:04 2000] Skrimgeour says, 'And will stay as long as need be - but suggest we pick one or two topics tonight'
[Thu Feb 17 21:24:09 2000] Saddy agrees.
[Thu Feb 17 21:24:09 2000] Skrimgeour says, 'resolve them'
[Thu Feb 17 21:24:10 2000] Aeropian says, 'i wish to hear what everyone has to say and will stay here till that happens'
[Thu Feb 17 21:24:10 2000] You say, 'Ok, Skrim, I agree as well.... I want this to move out of this forum and into a easier to navigate forum.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:24:11 2000] Maela thinks those whom wish to talk should stay and do so, and others should leave accordingly.
[Thu Feb 17 21:24:25 2000] Skrimgeour snaps to attention and salutes Haemish crisply.
[Thu Feb 17 21:24:53 2000] Skrimgeour says, 'I cede the floot'
[Thu Feb 17 21:24:58 2000] Rasemlo says, 'I got a great idea'
[Thu Feb 17 21:24:59 2000] Skrimgeour says, 'floor even'
[Thu Feb 17 21:25:17 2000] You say, 'I brough us toghether so that we could begin a forum for discussion .... if we do nothing more than all get on the same "page" whether forum or email list, I'm happy.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:25:36 2000] Tarhg agrees with everyone around ?å¡Öå?agrees with everyone around
[Thu Feb 17 21:25:36 2000] Alleeta smiles.
[Thu Feb 17 21:25:39 2000] Belce says, 'that is tonight's goal'
[Thu Feb 17 21:26:08 2000] You say, 'I will stay until I feel we can adjourn or I pass out from lack o' sleep one of the two.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:26:18 2000] Morderin says, 'we must plan carefully though'
[Thu Feb 17 21:26:26 2000] You say, 'Ok, Celegorm ye have the floor'
[Thu Feb 17 21:26:35 2000] Morderin says, '"those who move fast stumble"'
[Thu Feb 17 21:26:38 2000] Saddy raises her hand.
[Thu Feb 17 21:26:38 2000] Celegorm says, 'my thanks'
[Thu Feb 17 21:26:40 2000] Celegorm bows.
[Thu Feb 17 21:26:52 2000] Sentress says, 'I think that the hard-coded planning can wait a small amount of time -- not all of us are committed to this at the moment.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:27:02 2000] Celegorm says, 'first off, on the topic of the msg boards... if everyone else is done talking'
[Thu Feb 17 21:27:25 2000] Celegorm says, 'Sentress, if you have nothing else, i think i had the floor'
[Thu Feb 17 21:27:38 2000] Sentress says, 'Just a thought sir.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:27:39 2000] Celegorm says, 'it is courtisies such as this that make the meetings go much faster'
[Thu Feb 17 21:27:59 2000] Celegorm says, 'now, as i was saying'
[Thu Feb 17 21:28:19 2000] Celegorm says, 'there is a msg board set up for guild leaders and officers on teh Silver Order's website.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:28:40 2000] Saddy raises her hand!
[Thu Feb 17 21:28:49 2000] Celegorm says, 'although it is not exactly what you are all looking for to set up events and such, and is also with the wrong league of guild there is a board out there'
[Thu Feb 17 21:29:33 2000] Maela raises an eyebrow at Celegorm....questioning the "League of Guild" comment/
[Thu Feb 17 21:29:35 2000] Celegorm says, 'you could use this board as a starting point, and to talk to the other larger guilds that are not present at the moment'
[Thu Feb 17 21:30:15 2000] Celegorm says, 'as for the league of gulids, the idea is a VERY good one. but i must stress that we need to keep the League on a fucused and common goal.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:30:29 2000] Celegorm says, 'or it can very easily evaporate as soon as you get it together'
[Thu Feb 17 21:30:53 2000] Celegorm says, 'that is all i have to say at this time, i step down from the floor'
[Thu Feb 17 21:31:13 2000] You say, 'Ok, one comment from that that I wish to speak on is the larger guilds.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:31:50 2000] You say, 'We are here because we want more from the player community and want to give more to the player community than is being done now.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:32:24 2000] You say, 'ANY GUILD on Karana is welcome to be here, and is welcome to join us after this. We welcome any and all size guilds.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:32:43 2000] Gerrymand raises his hand.
[Thu Feb 17 21:32:46 2000] You say, 'All have an equal amount to contribute.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:32:55 2000] Aeropian fully agrees.
[Thu Feb 17 21:33:02 2000] Maela agrees.
[Thu Feb 17 21:33:07 2000] Gerrymand agrees with Haemish.
[Thu Feb 17 21:33:11 2000] You say, 'As far as the Silver Order message board, I have attempted to get on it myself to announce this event and was unable.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:33:17 2000] Binadar agrees with Haemish.
[Thu Feb 17 21:33:26 2000] Rasemlo agrees with everyone around Ë.
[Thu Feb 17 21:33:50 2000] Maela raises her hand.
[Thu Feb 17 21:34:13 2000] You say, 'I plan on setting a web site that is specifically for this body, this council of guilds, that will be a portal for what we need.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:34:19 2000] You say, 'Ok, Nikolos, ye have the floor'
[Thu Feb 17 21:34:37 2000] Nikolos says, 'lol. sorry'
[Thu Feb 17 21:35:22 2000] Nikolos says, 'Ok, About the council... I have a few suggestions that I hope may help...'
[Thu Feb 17 21:36:03 2000] Nikolos says, 'First, Celegorne, the idea about the silver order message base is good, but I believe it That base should only be used to announce our presence so to speak'
[Thu Feb 17 21:36:37 2000] Nikolos says, 'If we try to discuss matters for this council on that base, the messages would get lost in an endless stream of threads about other things'
[Thu Feb 17 21:36:52 2000] Saddy says, 'please explain futher I am new here'
[Thu Feb 17 21:36:55 2000] Nikolos says, 'Not to mention replies from people who arenent even on the Karana Server'
[Thu Feb 17 21:37:13 2000] Bangoo nods at Nikolos.
[Thu Feb 17 21:37:18 2000] Rasemlo agrees with everyone around Ë.
[Thu Feb 17 21:37:24 2000] Nikolos says, 'Haemish has stated he's setting up a web site for this "council" specifically, that would work much better'
[Thu Feb 17 21:37:27 2000] You say, 'He is discussing being on the Silver Order message forum.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:38:05 2000] Alleeta stands up for a minute.
[Thu Feb 17 21:38:15 2000] Nikolos says, 'Haemish, one of my officers, Aeropian here with me tonight, has set up a message base on our website using EZBoard. A free message board service, you could set something like that up on the site quite easilt'
[Thu Feb 17 21:38:17 2000] Alleeta says, 'if you will excuse me for a minute I ahve to take care of a guild member'
[Thu Feb 17 21:38:31 2000] You say, 'Aye that was exactly my thoughts Niko.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:38:50 2000] Nikolos says, 'That way, the message board will be used exclusivly by the council we are attempting to form'
[Thu Feb 17 21:39:18 2000] Nikolos says, 'Also, a couple general guidelines for this council that I believe would make things run smoothly...'
[Thu Feb 17 21:39:40 2000] Nikolos says, 'First, this council should consist of 1 person from each guild'
[Thu Feb 17 21:40:01 2000] Rasemlo says, 'and that would be the leader right'
[Thu Feb 17 21:40:18 2000] Binadar agrees with Nikolos.
[Thu Feb 17 21:40:22 2000] Nikolos says, 'The guilds themselves can decide who from their guild will represent them, and it will be this persons responsibility to inform their guild on anything they feel they need to'
[Thu Feb 17 21:40:28 2000] You say, 'Not necessarily Rasemlo... up to the individual guild who they want.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:40:44 2000] Rasemlo says, 'Oh.... O.K.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:40:50 2000] Nikolos says, 'It can be the guild leader, or an officer of that guild, or one of the members. It's up to the individual guilds who to choose'
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:04 2000] Nikolos says, 'Point is, only 1 person representing their entire guild'
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:20 2000] Players on EverQuest:
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:20 2000] ---------------------------
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [ANONYMOUS] Sareana
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [ANONYMOUS] Talai
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [39 Shaman] Lalaani (Barbarian)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [22 Ranger] Therapod (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [26 Warrior] Bangoo (Barbarian)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [35 Warrior] Binadar (Dwarf)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [22 Druid] Saddy (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [18 Ranger] Kelpo (Wood Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [19 Ranger] Ralvarian (Half Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [19 Warrior] Rasemlo (Wood Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [32 Warrior] Belce (Barbarian)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [24 Cleric] Aella (High Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [35 Druid] Alleeta (Half Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [18 Paladin] Metalathen (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [30 Ranger] Siclayn (Half Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [ANONYMOUS] Jenea
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [4 Shaman] Maela (Barbarian)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [21 Warrior] Xzarann (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [25 Shaman] Tarhg (Barbarian)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [ANONYMOUS] Gerrymand
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [48 Bard] Raiel (Half Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [17 Paladin] Keyn (Half Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [49 Druid] Deodrid (Wood Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [41 Ranger] Celegorm (Wood Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [3 Paladin] Morderin (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [25 Shaman] Mairi (Barbarian)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [ANONYMOUS] Nikolos
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [38 Monk] Sentress (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [29 Magician] Aeropian (High Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [18 Paladin] Sanaddil (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [22 Enchanter] Vanissa (High Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [41 Paladin] Miathan (High Elf)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [39 Cleric] Skrimgeour (Human)
[Thu Feb 17 21:41:21 2000] [19 Warrior] Haemish (Barbarian)

[Thu Feb 17 21:41:37 2000] Nikolos says, 'Second, use the Silver Order message boards to announce ourselves, and invite the leaders of other guilds to join us'
[Thu Feb 17 21:42:03 2000] Belce says, 'aye'
[Thu Feb 17 21:42:22 2000] Nikolos says, '3rd, allow ALL guilds to join. Dont stipulate only good guilds, or guilds that dont condone KSing or some such limitiations. Afterall'
[Thu Feb 17 21:42:35 2000] You say, 'AYE! ALL GUILDS!'
[Thu Feb 17 21:42:39 2000] Nikolos says, 'No matter what you or I may think of another guild, they have a right to exist as we do. '
[Thu Feb 17 21:42:48 2000] Maela nods in complete agreement.
[Thu Feb 17 21:42:52 2000] Tarhg says, 'AYE'
[Thu Feb 17 21:42:59 2000] Rasemlo says, 'Here, here!'
[Thu Feb 17 21:43:03 2000] Binadar nods in agreement.
[Thu Feb 17 21:43:15 2000] Nikolos says, 'If you and your guild are at war, or not on good terms with someone else... then dont work with them. But dont disclude them either'
[Thu Feb 17 21:43:27 2000] Rasemlo says, 'Here, here!'
[Thu Feb 17 21:43:28 2000] Nikolos says, 'As they may be your enemy, at the same time, they may be my friend'
[Thu Feb 17 21:43:46 2000] Rasemlo says, 'Well said.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:43:54 2000] Maela smiles and applauds Nikolos.
[Thu Feb 17 21:44:10 2000] Bangoo rethinks of the 'keep your enemies even closer than your friends' quote.
[Thu Feb 17 21:44:34 2000] Nikolos says, 'And also, tonight should be used to just get us on the same track, we cant try to organize an entire server event in one night, but as a council, working together for a little while through a message board'
[Thu Feb 17 21:44:46 2000] Nikolos says, 'We could probably accomplish more than you can immagine...'
[Thu Feb 17 21:45:07 2000] Nikolos says, 'And one last thing, and please dont think me rude for saying this, as it is not meant in that way at all...'
[Thu Feb 17 21:45:35 2000] Nikolos says, 'But Maela, you mentioned one guild taking over a server and all others getting shoved aside...'
[Thu Feb 17 21:45:42 2000] Maela says, 'Uh oh..'
[Thu Feb 17 21:45:48 2000] Bangoo chuckles.
[Thu Feb 17 21:45:49 2000] Maela chuckles.
[Thu Feb 17 21:45:53 2000] You laugh.
[Thu Feb 17 21:45:54 2000] Ralvarian smiles.
[Thu Feb 17 21:45:54 2000] Nikolos says, 'I'm afraid that a bit "unfounded". I am assuming you were refering to combine...'
[Thu Feb 17 21:46:06 2000] Maela says, 'No.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:46:12 2000] Morderin says, 'and we all know what happened to Combine...'
[Thu Feb 17 21:46:13 2000] Maela says, 'I meant a FEW Guilds, actually.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:46:19 2000] Nikolos says, 'true, Combine is a large guild, and gets noticed alot... but they are ONLY a guild, just like you, and myself.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:46:20 2000] Rasemlo says, 'Well it would have to be a big guild'
[Thu Feb 17 21:46:23 2000] Aeropian says, 'they split'
[Thu Feb 17 21:46:26 2000] Maela says, 'Yes, we do. But let me say this in response.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:46:33 2000] Nikolos says, 'A guild will only get shoved aside if that guild allows it.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:46:37 2000] Morderin says, 'actaully, if I may...'
[Thu Feb 17 21:46:53 2000] Maela says, 'I have walked into MANY a situation where one guild has taken over a whole zone and berated everyone else who was not inculded.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:46:55 2000] Nikolos says, 'My guild, still realitively new, is well over the 70 to 80 member mark, and gets new members every day'
[Thu Feb 17 21:47:07 2000] Maela says, 'Included. And mark my words, This will not happen.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:47:09 2000] Aeropian says, 'i would wish to say one tiny thing.......wont take a second.......'
[Thu Feb 17 21:47:19 2000] You say, 'Ok, let's stay in order here.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:47:22 2000] Morderin says, 'The Combine guild leader "borrowed" a bunch of rare items and logged out, where he then put his account on Ebay and sold it.'
[Thu Feb 17 21:47:34 2000] Nikolos says, 'I fully intend to make the GM's forget about combine. If it happens, so be it, if not, it wont be due to lack of trying :-)'
[Thu Feb 17 21:48:03 2000] Nikolos says, 'Thats all I ahve to say. I hope to see everyone on the council board when Haemish gets it running :-)'
[Thu Feb 17 21:48:07 2000] You say, 'Ok, now let's stay in order.'

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