MEETING LOG

The Council of Guilds met on Wednesday, December 20, 2000 in the Lake Rathe Arena. Below is the log from that meeting, taken by Haemish, of the Silver Daggers edited to remove /tells, /shouts, /ooc and anything else not relevant to the discussion. This meeting was focused on what events we have done, such as Dragon and Plane Raids, using the Council to create alliances for large target raids, as well as a more events coming up. I have split this into two pages so cut down on the file size.

[Mon Jan 08 20:53:53 2001] You say, 'Welcome to the Council of Guilds 9th Meeting'
[Mon Jan 08 20:54:27 2001] You say, 'We're almost 1 year old '
[Mon Jan 08 20:54:47 2001] You say, 'And still going strong'
[Mon Jan 08 20:55:25 2001] You say, 'I want to ask that everyone check the members page on the Council Web site and if you see any guilds that have left the server, please email me and let me know'
[Mon Jan 08 20:55:37 2001] Lainiea nods.
[Mon Jan 08 20:56:10 2001] You say, 'Or if any of your representatives have changed guilds or positions, also let me know'
[Mon Jan 08 20:56:41 2001] You say, 'Ok first up at our last meeting we discussed having more events'
[Mon Jan 08 20:57:27 2001] You say, 'Including the idea of having more regular though smaller scale mixer hunts'
[Mon Jan 08 20:57:35 2001] You say, 'Anyone here not know what a mixer hunt is? '
[Mon Jan 08 20:57:44 2001] Zumu says, 'aye'
[Mon Jan 08 20:57:46 2001] Lainiea raises her hand.
[Mon Jan 08 20:58:06 2001] You say, 'Ok the Concept of the Mixer hunt is that any guilds or nonguilded persons can join the hunt'
[Mon Jan 08 20:58:13 2001] Zumu says, 'i mean i know'
[Mon Jan 08 20:59:02 2001] Lainiea says, 'is it set to levels??'
[Mon Jan 08 20:59:18 2001] You say, 'And there are anywhere from 12-30 or so people on the hunt, all from different guilds, all brought together for a common goal, as training for large target raids like Dragons'
[Mon Jan 08 20:59:38 2001] You say, 'Aye it is broken into levels, such as 15-24, 25-35, 36-44, and 45+'
[Mon Jan 08 21:00:14 2001] You say, 'For instance, on the last mixer hunt, I took about 18 people, from levels 26-35 to Dalnir to "do" the dungeon from top to bottom'
[Mon Jan 08 21:01:09 2001] You say, 'It was successful, though we had a big death scene at the end when we took on the Kly Overseer :)'
[Mon Jan 08 21:01:54 2001] You say, 'What we decided we'd like to see is more of these hunts, the biggest problem has been getting those who are willing to lead them'
[Mon Jan 08 21:02:14 2001] Balendin says out of character, 'Hello all'
[Mon Jan 08 21:02:20 2001] You say out of character, 'Evenin' Balendin'
[Mon Jan 08 21:02:35 2001] Balendin bows before Haemish.
[Mon Jan 08 21:02:35 2001] Gorx says, 'hiya all :)'
[Mon Jan 08 21:02:40 2001] You say, 'Evenin' Gorx'
[Mon Jan 08 21:02:40 2001] Atalas says, 'Hello Gorx'
[Mon Jan 08 21:02:43 2001] Aeschelus says, 'Hello '
[Mon Jan 08 21:02:46 2001] Atalas says, 'Hello Balendin'
[Mon Jan 08 21:02:46 2001] Edina says, 'Welcome :)'
[Mon Jan 08 21:02:48 2001] Crysannia says, 'hello'
[Mon Jan 08 21:02:49 2001] Esca says, 'Hiya'
[Mon Jan 08 21:02:50 2001] Zumu says, 'hello gorz'
[Mon Jan 08 21:02:55 2001] Gorx says, 'gorx = daggoth :)'
[Mon Jan 08 21:03:03 2001] Balendin says, 'I mixed the time zones, did you start an hour ago?'
[Mon Jan 08 21:03:07 2001] Guinness says, 'Oh no not him )'
[Mon Jan 08 21:03:11 2001] Aeschelus is afk a moment.
[Mon Jan 08 21:03:18 2001] You say, 'We were goin' to Balendin, but many people were having trouble getting in'
[Mon Jan 08 21:04:35 2001] You say, 'Now does anyone know someone in their guild who would lead a mixer hunt? From any level? '
[Mon Jan 08 21:05:21 2001] Guinness says, 'I could probably help co-lead something, but not sure I'd want full responsibility.'
[Mon Jan 08 21:05:30 2001] Edina says, 'I would have to go back and ask our members. I would be willing to but the last few places I have been unfamiliar with'
[Mon Jan 08 21:05:51 2001] You say, 'Well I definitely would suggest that there be both an organizer and a battle commander'
[Mon Jan 08 21:06:04 2001] Crysannia says, 'Aeschelus has great leadership skills, but he's afk righ tnow'
[Mon Jan 08 21:06:21 2001] You say, 'The Organizer is the one who sets the group, gets people together, posts the information, etc. and the battle commander actually leads the troops'
[Mon Jan 08 21:06:27 2001] Lainiea says, 'if he is AFK...volunteer him...'
[Mon Jan 08 21:06:30 2001] Guinness nods.
[Mon Jan 08 21:06:43 2001] Zumu says, 'ok i volunteer him '
[Mon Jan 08 21:06:48 2001] Crysannia says, 'hehe'
[Mon Jan 08 21:06:57 2001] Rainmaker says, 'i second that.. heh'
[Mon Jan 08 21:07:00 2001] Zatriz says, 'Sorry for being late.'
[Mon Jan 08 21:07:02 2001] Lainiea says, 'I Third it :).'
[Mon Jan 08 21:07:03 2001] Atalas says, 'You snooze you looose '
[Mon Jan 08 21:07:22 2001] You say, 'I think the biggest problem we have is someone to lead the lower levels, say below 30 or so'
[Mon Jan 08 21:08:14 2001] You say, 'I've got some ideas for someone from my guild, but I'd like to see if there are others out there'
[Mon Jan 08 21:08:37 2001] Zatriz raises his hand.
[Mon Jan 08 21:08:45 2001] You say, 'Aye Zatriz?'
[Mon Jan 08 21:08:55 2001] Aeschelus is back.
[Mon Jan 08 21:09:10 2001] Edina congratulates Aeschelus.
[Mon Jan 08 21:09:13 2001] Zatriz says, 'I may be a bit biased, but Stonescale, the GL of the Peacekeepers, is doing a great job with those of us under 30.'
[Mon Jan 08 21:09:22 2001] Lainiea congrats Aeschelus too.
[Mon Jan 08 21:09:29 2001] Rainmaker says, 'gratz Aeschelus'
[Mon Jan 08 21:09:30 2001] You say, 'heheheh volunteer him then!'
[Mon Jan 08 21:09:35 2001] Atalas says, 'Hehe '
[Mon Jan 08 21:09:38 2001] Aeschelus says, 'hehe'
[Mon Jan 08 21:09:39 2001] Zatriz says, 'Most of us inthe Peacekeepers are under 30 in fact.'
[Mon Jan 08 21:09:41 2001] Aeschelus says, 'rofl'
[Mon Jan 08 21:10:02 2001] Aeschelus just scrolled up.
[Mon Jan 08 21:10:17 2001] Crysannia massages Aeschelus's shoulders.
[Mon Jan 08 21:10:18 2001] Zatriz says, 'Ummmm, volunteer him for what exactly? All I heard was leading those under 30. )'
[Mon Jan 08 21:10:27 2001] Aeschelus beams a smile at Crysannia.
[Mon Jan 08 21:10:36 2001] You say, 'DOH! Ok we're talking about Council of Guilds Mixer Hutns'
[Mon Jan 08 21:10:39 2001] You say, 'Hunts that is'
[Mon Jan 08 21:10:49 2001] Aeschelus says, 'Where am I taking people?'
[Mon Jan 08 21:10:56 2001] You say, 'Nowhere yet Aes'
[Mon Jan 08 21:11:10 2001] Zatriz says, 'OK. Sorry if I am a bit slow. New to this sort of thing. I think Stonescale could handle a decent size Hunt or Mixer.'
[Mon Jan 08 21:11:12 2001] Aeschelus says, 'hehe k'
[Mon Jan 08 21:11:32 2001] Lainiea looks innocently at Aeschelus.
[Mon Jan 08 21:11:45 2001] Aeschelus chuckles.
[Mon Jan 08 21:12:09 2001] You say, 'I'd say take this back to your guilds, asking for anyone to lead raids of 12-24 people to dungeons based on these level ranges.... 15-24, 25-34, 35-44, 45+'
[Mon Jan 08 21:12:12 2001] Guppin waves.
[Mon Jan 08 21:12:18 2001] You say, 'Hail Guppin'
[Mon Jan 08 21:12:21 2001] Guppin says, 'Hail'
[Mon Jan 08 21:12:33 2001] Pippi waves at Guppin.
[Mon Jan 08 21:12:37 2001] Zatriz nods.
[Mon Jan 08 21:12:38 2001] Atalas says, 'Hello Guppin'
[Mon Jan 08 21:12:42 2001] Guppin waves at Pippi.
[Mon Jan 08 21:12:45 2001] Guppin says, 'hiya'
[Mon Jan 08 21:12:46 2001] You say, 'The only stipulations are that 1) You must be of the level range to lead the raid, i.e. no 50's leading a 15-24 raid'
[Mon Jan 08 21:12:57 2001] Zatriz chuckles.
[Mon Jan 08 21:13:09 2001] You say, '2) You must follow the Council's loot rules, i.e. anyone who can use it and doesn't have it can roll for it'
[Mon Jan 08 21:13:58 2001] Zumu smiles.
[Mon Jan 08 21:14:07 2001] You say, '3) The Organizer must post it to the Council Forum, and the EQ News sites out there, asking for anyone to join it... use the Press Release Submission form on the CounciL Web site'
[Mon Jan 08 21:14:25 2001] You say, '4) And try to pick a dungeon that isn't camped to high heaven'
[Mon Jan 08 21:14:48 2001] You say, 'Any questions? '
[Mon Jan 08 21:14:57 2001] Zatriz shakes his head.
[Mon Jan 08 21:15:39 2001] You say, 'These hunts are a great opportunity to explore dungeons you've never been to before, just try to research the dungeon as much as possible if you are leading'
[Mon Jan 08 21:16:04 2001] Aeschelus has a question / comment.
[Mon Jan 08 21:16:10 2001] Lainiea raises her hand.
[Mon Jan 08 21:16:14 2001] You say, 'Aye Aes? Question? '
[Mon Jan 08 21:17:08 2001] Aeschelus says, 'Aye.. I would be most interested in leading a raid of a place where there is little information and much risk.. so i would be curious to know if CoG members would be interested in such a raid'
[Mon Jan 08 21:17:20 2001] Pippi says, 'sure'
[Mon Jan 08 21:17:27 2001] You say, 'Aye I would be'
[Mon Jan 08 21:17:31 2001] Suas nods in agreement.
[Mon Jan 08 21:17:34 2001] Zumu says, 'sure'
[Mon Jan 08 21:17:36 2001] Guppin agrees with everyone around him.
[Mon Jan 08 21:17:37 2001] Lainiea says, 'for which levels please?'
[Mon Jan 08 21:17:39 2001] Aeschelus says, 'Zones with no maps, for example.. Icewell Keep, '
[Mon Jan 08 21:17:41 2001] Atalas says, 'Im game '
[Mon Jan 08 21:17:42 2001] Balendin says, 'Kael would be a nice place for that kind of raid'
[Mon Jan 08 21:17:43 2001] Rainmaker says, 'i'm all for it..'
[Mon Jan 08 21:17:48 2001] Edina says, 'That would be a real adventure'
[Mon Jan 08 21:17:52 2001] Rainmaker says, 'adds to the adventure'
[Mon Jan 08 21:18:04 2001] Zatriz says, 'Not sure we can supply the levels needed, but sounds like fun.'
[Mon Jan 08 21:18:13 2001] Esca says, 'Yeah it would be quite a rush.'
[Mon Jan 08 21:18:15 2001] Aeschelus says, 'Aye.. i would be glad to do lower lvl raids, as well.. but that would contradict the lvl / raid rule'
[Mon Jan 08 21:18:36 2001] Aeschelus says, 'House Marr could supply a good backbone for any such raid'
[Mon Jan 08 21:18:46 2001] You say, 'Zatriz, even if Kael is out of the question, you could pick someplace else, like Kaesora, or Dalnir, or somewhere else'
[Mon Jan 08 21:18:49 2001] Esca raises his hand.
[Mon Jan 08 21:18:55 2001] Aeschelus says, 'Aye'
[Mon Jan 08 21:19:02 2001] You say, 'Lainiea ye had a question? '
[Mon Jan 08 21:19:10 2001] Zatriz says, 'That is true.'
[Mon Jan 08 21:19:33 2001] Balendin says, 'I am sure that there are enough peeps in CoG even to kill dragons in Necropolis'
[Mon Jan 08 21:19:37 2001] Lainiea says, 'do all raids have to be in a dungeon??..some of us like to hunt in wide open spaces...so I thought I would ask...'
[Mon Jan 08 21:20:00 2001] You say, 'For the Mixers it is usually best to get a dungeon, simply because of the challenge they present that are unique to dungeons'
[Mon Jan 08 21:20:26 2001] Atalas looks at Guppin and raises his hand.
[Mon Jan 08 21:20:26 2001] You say, 'Because those same strategies are what is needed for Dragon raids'
[Mon Jan 08 21:20:28 2001] Aeschelus raises hand for comment.
[Mon Jan 08 21:20:29 2001] Atalas raises his hand.
[Mon Jan 08 21:20:36 2001] Balendin beams a smile at Edina.
[Mon Jan 08 21:20:38 2001] Guppin panics and screams.
[Mon Jan 08 21:20:40 2001] You say, 'Esca a question? '
[Mon Jan 08 21:20:52 2001] Edina beams a smile at Balendin.
[Mon Jan 08 21:20:56 2001] Esca says, 'I was wondering about the lower level raid leading question would it be possible maybe for a higher lvl to act as raid organiser and then a lower lvl to act as battle leader sort of to act as a mentor?'
[Mon Jan 08 21:21:14 2001] Pippi says, 'that's a pretty good idea'
[Mon Jan 08 21:21:24 2001] Esca says, 'It would surely help train leaders'
[Mon Jan 08 21:21:25 2001] Guppin says, 'like teacher and student'
[Mon Jan 08 21:21:27 2001] Zatriz says, 'I have heard of that happening already. Great idea.'
[Mon Jan 08 21:21:32 2001] You say, 'It would but the reason I discourage it is to keep the higher level from just waltzing through the dungeon'
[Mon Jan 08 21:21:50 2001] Esca says, 'That would aid no one. Its true'
[Mon Jan 08 21:22:08 2001] Aeschelus says, 'I would have a hard time sitting back and watching someone die.. and i know that haemish wants death to be a real risk for these raids'
[Mon Jan 08 21:22:10 2001] You say, 'It doesn't help jumping out of a plane if the plane is only 3 feet off the ground :)'
[Mon Jan 08 21:22:20 2001] Guinness grins.
[Mon Jan 08 21:22:22 2001] Zumu says, 'i agree'
[Mon Jan 08 21:22:34 2001] Zatriz says, 'The organizer does not necessarily have to act in the dungeon crawl. Just be there.'
[Mon Jan 08 21:22:47 2001] You say, 'Aye in Dalnir for instance, we all died and had a 4 hour corpse recovery.. it was hard but it is something that isn't out of place in a planes raid'
[Mon Jan 08 21:22:51 2001] Esca says, 'That was my idea I know it would be hard but possible'
[Mon Jan 08 21:23:00 2001] Gamgie pokes Pippi.
[Mon Jan 08 21:23:06 2001] Pippi says, 'yes? )'
[Mon Jan 08 21:24:13 2001] You say, 'Another reason I would advise against a higher level leading a lower level raid is if the higher DOESN'T attack, someone dies and then gets mad because he lost a level or what have you... and doesn't get the idea of training.... '
[Mon Jan 08 21:24:26 2001] You say, 'I think it'd be hard NOT to help'
[Mon Jan 08 21:24:34 2001] Aeschelus agrees.
[Mon Jan 08 21:24:38 2001] Zatriz says, 'Understood. I actually missed the previous comments about not acting. )'
[Mon Jan 08 21:24:45 2001] Aeschelus says, 'As a paladin i couldnt stand and watch that'
[Mon Jan 08 21:24:59 2001] Esca says, 'I really think most people in the 15-24 bracket will be worried about planning an entire raid alone. But if there was some one to work with it would be easier. Maybe the organiser wouldn't even attend the raid. I don't know it was just an idea.'
[Mon Jan 08 21:25:01 2001] Pippi thanks Gamgie heartily.
[Mon Jan 08 21:25:02 2001] Balendin agrees with Aeschelus.
[Mon Jan 08 21:25:36 2001] Aeschelus says, 'I would be agreeable to helping them organizing the raid before hand'
[Mon Jan 08 21:25:54 2001] Esca says, 'I certainly couldn't stand by and watch someone die if I could prevent it )'
[Mon Jan 08 21:25:55 2001] Atalas says, 'Is th only good place for a lvl 15 24 raid Unrest with the items it has? '
[Mon Jan 08 21:25:55 2001] Aeschelus says, 'errr helping them organize'
[Mon Jan 08 21:26:08 2001] Balendin says, 'hm, do you have a secondary toon that could lead that raid?'
[Mon Jan 08 21:26:14 2001] You say, 'Actually 15-24 has a number of places'
[Mon Jan 08 21:26:16 2001] Guppin says, 'another place is runnyeye'
[Mon Jan 08 21:26:22 2001] Aeschelus says, 'my only char :P'
[Mon Jan 08 21:26:24 2001] You say, 'Unrest, Najena, Upper Guk'
[Mon Jan 08 21:26:30 2001] Zatriz says, 'Atalas, good question. In fact, we are trying our hands there this weekend.'
[Mon Jan 08 21:26:36 2001] You say, 'Kurn's Tower'
[Mon Jan 08 21:27:26 2001] You say, 'Unrest is a good place for 15-24'
[Mon Jan 08 21:27:35 2001] Zatriz says, 'Kurn's Tower is lacking in the loot department.'
[Mon Jan 08 21:27:51 2001] You say, 'Ahhh Zatriz but the Mixer Hunts aren't about loot'
[Mon Jan 08 21:27:55 2001] Atalas says, 'I notice if you do these raids 15 24 would like to get items but some of the mobs in these places are to high for them to attack and kill'
[Mon Jan 08 21:28:05 2001] Zatriz says, 'True, but that was part of Atalas question. '
[Mon Jan 08 21:28:46 2001] Aeschelus says, 'the loot question is really not the point of the mixer hunt, though.. the point is to teach the protocols of dungeon crawling'
[Mon Jan 08 21:28:49 2001] You say, 'The Mixers are about learning the discipline of dealing with LARGE groups of people and working together towards a common goal, and that goal can be one particular mob or item in a dungeon'
[Mon Jan 08 21:29:02 2001] Zatriz nods in agreement.
[Mon Jan 08 21:29:09 2001] Atalas says, 'Aaa Ok '
[Mon Jan 08 21:29:13 2001] Esca nods.
[Mon Jan 08 21:29:28 2001] You are low on food.
[Mon Jan 08 21:29:58 2001] You say, 'Just to interrupt, anyone have any summoned or foraged food I could have? This low on food message is annoyin''
[Mon Jan 08 21:30:05 2001] Pippi says, 'heh'
[Mon Jan 08 21:30:13 2001] Esca smiles.
[Mon Jan 08 21:30:17 2001] Zatriz laughs.
[Mon Jan 08 21:30:19 2001] Ucci says, 'lol'
[Mon Jan 08 21:30:20 2001] You have no more room the item falls to the ground.
[Mon Jan 08 21:30:31 2001] You say, 'Acckkk iventory full'
[Mon Jan 08 21:30:42 2001] Guppin says, 'inventory is useless anyways =)'
[Mon Jan 08 21:30:42 2001] Esca says, 'hehe'
[Mon Jan 08 21:30:43 2001] Suas snickers softly.
[Mon Jan 08 21:30:47 2001] Pippi says, 'lol'
[Mon Jan 08 21:30:50 2001] Zatriz wonders what will happen when Haemish gets his epic weapon.
[Mon Jan 08 21:30:55 2001] Pippi says, 'eat faster )'
[Mon Jan 08 21:31:01 2001] You say, 'Ok not full now'
[Mon Jan 08 21:31:09 2001] You say, 'Thank ye! '
[Mon Jan 08 21:31:11 2001] Haemish bows before Lainiea.
[Mon Jan 08 21:31:13 2001] Lainiea bows before Haemish.
[Mon Jan 08 21:31:30 2001] You say, 'Now then, take this back to your guilds and get some volunteers to lead some mixer raids'
[Mon Jan 08 21:31:44 2001] Guppin cheers.
[Mon Jan 08 21:32:08 2001] You say, 'And have them post to the forum volunteering to lead one and I can lead them through the process of organizing it'
[Mon Jan 08 21:33:00 2001] You say, 'Before we move on I want to recognize some of the guilds who have made it tonight'
[Mon Jan 08 21:34:09 2001] You say, 'I see the Rainmakers of Karana, The Haven, Haven of Light, The Silent Watch, Phantoms of Norrath, Mist Walkers, House Marr D'Akcep, Peacekeepers, and my own the Silver Daggers'
[Mon Jan 08 21:34:15 2001] Guppin cheers.
[Mon Jan 08 21:34:24 2001] Suas nods.
[Mon Jan 08 21:34:26 2001] Guinness smiles.
[Mon Jan 08 21:34:28 2001] Zatriz nods.
[Mon Jan 08 21:34:28 2001] Edina waves.
[Mon Jan 08 21:34:31 2001] Guppin stands on his tip-toes and does a dance of joy!
[Mon Jan 08 21:34:36 2001] Esca bows.
[Mon Jan 08 21:34:37 2001] Guppin stands on his tip-toes and does a dance of joy!
[Mon Jan 08 21:34:41 2001] Balendin smiles.
[Mon Jan 08 21:34:46 2001] Lainiea smiles.
[Mon Jan 08 21:35:07 2001] You say, 'Now, on to the next subject ..... Dragon Raids'
[Mon Jan 08 21:35:18 2001] Atalas raises his hand.
[Mon Jan 08 21:35:25 2001] You say, 'Yes Atalas?'
[Mon Jan 08 21:35:38 2001] Atalas says, 'Useally on these raid how many ppl make it? '
[Mon Jan 08 21:35:46 2001] Atalas says, 'err raids'
[Mon Jan 08 21:35:47 2001] You say, 'Balendin ye can answer that better than I'
[Mon Jan 08 21:36:36 2001] You say, 'Balendin?'
[Mon Jan 08 21:36:40 2001] Balendin says, 'hm, good question. If we have 40 peeps, from 20-35 can survive'
[Mon Jan 08 21:36:51 2001] Balendin was partly afk :)
[Mon Jan 08 21:36:56 2001] Ucci says, 'the casters die first???'
[Mon Jan 08 21:36:56 2001] Zumu raises his hand.
[Mon Jan 08 21:36:59 2001] You say, 'Heheh ok Balendin'
[Mon Jan 08 21:37:09 2001] Balendin says, 'casters might die multiple times'
[Mon Jan 08 21:37:11 2001] You say, 'Not necessarily Ucci'
[Mon Jan 08 21:37:13 2001] Guppin says, 'nah, rogues do =)'
[Mon Jan 08 21:37:17 2001] Balendin says, 'but they can always be rezed'
[Mon Jan 08 21:37:29 2001] Balendin says, 'everyone is rezed in Dragon raids'
[Mon Jan 08 21:37:37 2001] Zatriz raises his hand.
[Mon Jan 08 21:37:41 2001] Zumu raises his hand.
[Mon Jan 08 21:37:43 2001] Guppin chuckles.
[Mon Jan 08 21:37:45 2001] You say, 'Yes Zumu?'
[Mon Jan 08 21:38:06 2001] Zumu says, 'will we be doing vox any time in the near future?'
[Mon Jan 08 21:38:16 2001] You say, 'Yes, I believe we will'
[Mon Jan 08 21:38:31 2001] Atalas says, 'What lvl do you need to be for a Vox Raid? '
[Mon Jan 08 21:38:38 2001] You say, 'Here's what I'm attempting for the next Dragon raid'
[Mon Jan 08 21:38:55 2001] Balendin says, 'it depends in the raid leader, usually 40+tanks, 45+ casters'
[Mon Jan 08 21:38:59 2001] Gamgie says, '45 ... '
[Mon Jan 08 21:39:08 2001] Atalas says, 'Ok '
[Mon Jan 08 21:39:16 2001] You say, 'I'm going to be taking all the names that are currently signed up on the Council Dragon forums and putting them into an email list'
[Mon Jan 08 21:39:57 2001] You say, 'Depending on how fast the Naggie rotation goes, I may add us to the Vox rotation before Naggie comes up again'
[Mon Jan 08 21:40:12 2001] Zumu says, 'ok cool thnks'
[Mon Jan 08 21:40:51 2001] You say, 'Now once, we get say 2 or 3 back from the Dragon in question, I'll send email updates to this list, telling people the approximate time and date for the raid'
[Mon Jan 08 21:41:13 2001] Aeschelus says, 'that would be appreciated'
[Mon Jan 08 21:41:17 2001] Haemish saved.
[Mon Jan 08 21:41:26 2001] Edina says, 'Very much appreciated'
[Mon Jan 08 21:41:52 2001] You say, 'So hopefully when the time comes, we'll be able to jump on the dragon properly..... now the other thing I'm missing is a raid leader... Balendin has helped lead in the past, but has now joined an Alliance with Sign of One isn't it? '
[Mon Jan 08 21:42:31 2001] Balendin says, 'yes that's true, the problem is...'
[Mon Jan 08 21:43:27 2001] Atalas says, 'do we give you our email address to you for a dargon raid or do we just post it on the board? '
[Mon Jan 08 21:43:43 2001] You say, 'Post it on the board'
[Mon Jan 08 21:43:54 2001] Balendin says, 'we could help again in the future for CoG dragon raids. But I don't know if this can happen since our people will lead 2 dragon raids in the same rotation'
[Mon Jan 08 21:44:33 2001] You say, 'Aye this actually can't happen Balendin... we could only invite a few of you in the CoG raids because of that'
[Mon Jan 08 21:44:45 2001] Aeschelus says, 'I would offer to help lead but I have no dragon raid experience.. only planes'
[Mon Jan 08 21:44:57 2001] You say, 'That's the problem, not enough experienced leaders'
[Mon Jan 08 21:45:04 2001] Balendin says, 'otherwise, this could have as result both SSR and COG to be banned from dragon rotations'
[Mon Jan 08 21:45:42 2001] You say, 'Which is why the CoG is looking for more leaders... there is the possibility I could lead the next raid, whether I'm high enough or not'
[Mon Jan 08 21:46:15 2001] Belce says, 'Hello I am back '
[Mon Jan 08 21:46:18 2001] Pippi says, 'heya )'
[Mon Jan 08 21:46:25 2001] Aeschelus says, 'Balendin would you mind if i attend your dragon raids just for the experience and i will not participate in any lottos'
[Mon Jan 08 21:46:47 2001] You say, 'But I want to stress to everyone that because of the tight time frame and restrictions on members, CoG dragon raids are VERY difficult and could result in failure'
[Mon Jan 08 21:47:10 2001] You say, 'Killing a dragon with the CoG isn't easy but it can be done... we've done it twice with Nagafen'
[Mon Jan 08 21:47:11 2001] Balendin says, 'there is no problem Aeschelus, we can have guests in our raids'
[Mon Jan 08 21:47:32 2001] Aeschelus says, 'That would be appreciated.. i just want to learn the ins and outs of the raid'
[Mon Jan 08 21:48:07 2001] You say, 'So please impart that to your guilds.... this is one reason I've been advocating Alliances as a better way to do CoG raids'
[Mon Jan 08 21:48:11 2001] You say, 'Dragon raids that is'
[Mon Jan 08 21:49:02 2001] You say, 'If we have a rotation of multi-guild alliances leading the CoG dragon raids, basically providing say 12-18 members from the alliance and the CoG provide the rest'
[Mon Jan 08 21:49:13 2001] You say, 'I think the raids will be more efficient'
[Mon Jan 08 21:50:20 2001] You say, 'The only drawback may be that the Alliances will have less chances at the dragon'
[Mon Jan 08 21:50:36 2001] Balendin says, 'How many alliances now exist in CoG'
[Mon Jan 08 21:50:37 2001] Balendin says, '?'
[Mon Jan 08 21:50:42 2001] You say, 'Heheh 1'
[Mon Jan 08 21:50:42 2001] Aeschelus says, 'Actually, that is a house marr goal.. We do not wish to grow into a huge guild.. but would like to ally with key guilds and to offer support to CoG as a backbone for future raids'
[Mon Jan 08 21:50:57 2001] Balendin says, 'lol'
[Mon Jan 08 21:51:15 2001] Guppin says, 'crazy alliances'
[Mon Jan 08 21:51:18 2001] You say, 'That I know of, just the one my guild is in with the Seekers of Knowledge, Storm's Justice and Illuminatus'
[Mon Jan 08 21:51:40 2001] Balendin says, 'Actually, we are currently allied with Sign of One and Fire of Redemption as Silent Sign of Redemption alliance'
[Mon Jan 08 21:51:48 2001] You say, 'So that's 2'
[Mon Jan 08 21:51:50 2001] Aeschelus says, 'House Marr is allied with Phantoms of Norrath and Pact of Aegis, currenlty.. so that's two :)'
[Mon Jan 08 21:51:54 2001] You say, '3'
[Mon Jan 08 21:51:56 2001] Aeschelus says, '3 '
[Mon Jan 08 21:52:03 2001] Guppin says, 'haha'
[Mon Jan 08 21:52:13 2001] Suas cheers at House Marr!
[Mon Jan 08 21:52:34 2001] Aeschelus cheeras at the Phantoms of Norrath!!
[Mon Jan 08 21:52:39 2001] Aeschelus says, 'salut Suas'
[Mon Jan 08 21:53:01 2001] Gamgie bow at himself 8)
[Mon Jan 08 21:53:02 2001] You say, 'What we'd need is someone or a set of someone's from each alliance to lead the raids'
[Mon Jan 08 21:54:14 2001] You say, 'I'd say Balendin ye probably already have a set of leaders, the rest of us would just need to decide on ours'
[Mon Jan 08 21:54:44 2001] Balendin says, 'yes we do, we have few peeps that are capable to lead a dragon raid'
[Mon Jan 08 21:55:27 2001] You say, 'Any questions about the dragon raids? It's something we'll have to get some more organization on, but I think we can get a doable system'
[Mon Jan 08 21:55:58 2001] Aeschelus says, 'We will add it to our agenda at our next alliance meeting'
[Mon Jan 08 21:56:16 2001] Edina says, 'So, are we passing on raids until we get leaders?'
[Mon Jan 08 21:56:50 2001] You say, 'Depends on the timing... right now we are far back from Nagafen and not on the Vox rotation.. however if I put us on the Vox rotation, that will probably come up quicker than Naggie'
[Mon Jan 08 21:56:59 2001] You say, 'I'd say within this month'
[Mon Jan 08 21:57:21 2001] Edina says, 'Is the number of groups in the rotation growing?'
[Mon Jan 08 21:57:32 2001] Atalas says, 'How about Fire Giants? Got a few member that are intrested in that kind of raid'
[Mon Jan 08 21:57:51 2001] Belce says, 'not really, they just a once a week target though'
[Mon Jan 08 21:57:53 2001] Balendin says, 'not really, many guild that are in the rotation skip these two dragons'
[Mon Jan 08 21:57:56 2001] You say, 'Fire giants would be a good target for a mixer hunt'
[Mon Jan 08 21:57:58 2001] Edina says, 'We have people that would be interested in Fire Giants'
[Mon Jan 08 21:58:23 2001] You say, 'Our alliance has already tried hunting the Ice Giants as training'
[Mon Jan 08 21:58:42 2001] Balendin says, 'FG's is a very usefull hunt, since it's the first things you need to learn before you hit Naggy'
[Mon Jan 08 21:59:10 2001] You say, 'One thing to remember about the dragon hunts though.... your fire and magic resists must be up to about 75 before any buffs are put on'
[Mon Jan 08 21:59:22 2001] Balendin says, 'Exactly'
[Mon Jan 08 21:59:25 2001] Zatriz winces.
[Mon Jan 08 21:59:30 2001] You say, 'For Naggie that is and Cold resist and magic for Vox'
[Mon Jan 08 21:59:53 2001] Belce says, 'without it you die far too quick, especially those that are just high enough to be there'
[Mon Jan 08 22:00:08 2001] You say, 'ALso Vox requires that we have at least 3-5 enchanters, preferably 49+ to mana drain Vox... so she won't do a complete heal'
[Mon Jan 08 22:00:54 2001] You say, 'Questions? '
[Mon Jan 08 22:01:01 2001] Atalas looks at Rainmaker and raises his hand.
[Mon Jan 08 22:01:02 2001] Gamgie think 32000 hp is long to take down.
[Mon Jan 08 22:01:03 2001] Atalas raises his hand.
[Mon Jan 08 22:01:10 2001] You say, 'Atalas? '
[Mon Jan 08 22:01:16 2001] Balendin says, 'not really Gambie, it's a matter of two minutes'
[Mon Jan 08 22:01:51 2001] Rainmaker ponders Atalas. What is going on with him?
[Mon Jan 08 22:01:54 2001] Atalas says, 'Does CoG have Kedge Raids? Cuz i hear they are the best place to practice before going to PoF PoH and PoA .'
[Mon Jan 08 22:02:05 2001] You say, 'Kedge has actually been the place of 2 mixer hunts'
[Mon Jan 08 22:02:24 2001] You say, 'We had one that was 40+ and one that was 44+'
[Mon Jan 08 22:02:43 2001] You say, 'Pippi actually helped Jzonn with those raids'
[Mon Jan 08 22:02:58 2001] Atalas says, 'Cuz I remember Targh and Maria telling me about them going on that raid for pracitice '
[Mon Jan 08 22:03:05 2001] Pippi says, 'erm, help? ) sorry, he went LD for one of them )'
[Mon Jan 08 22:03:21 2001] You say, 'How many people went on those raids Pippi? '
[Mon Jan 08 22:03:46 2001] Pippi says, 'hm, between 30 to 40, for kedge, almost 50 for the hole'
[Mon Jan 08 22:03:53 2001] Caramen cheers at Aeschelus.
[Mon Jan 08 22:04:02 2001] Edina remembers not being able to move in the Hole.
[Mon Jan 08 22:04:07 2001] Pippi chuckles at Edina.
[Mon Jan 08 22:04:09 2001] Aeschelus bows before Caramen.
[Mon Jan 08 22:04:09 2001] Caramen says, 'niec armor Aech'
[Mon Jan 08 22:04:10 2001] You say, 'Aye.. ye learned that the Hole requires Less people than more though eh? :)'
[Mon Jan 08 22:04:13 2001] Aeschelus says, 'hehe shaddup'
[Mon Jan 08 22:04:22 2001] Edina says, 'But it was fun!'
[Mon Jan 08 22:04:29 2001] Pippi says, 'we could have played the telephone booth game'
[Mon Jan 08 22:04:42 2001] Pippi says, '"how many people fit into a tunnel entrance?"'
[Mon Jan 08 22:04:45 2001] Edina says, 'I think a few did :)'
[Mon Jan 08 22:04:51 2001] You say, 'Hahahahahahah!'
[Mon Jan 08 22:04:55 2001] Ucci says, 'isnt record 15'
[Mon Jan 08 22:05:03 2001] Pippi says, 'lol, 15?'
[Mon Jan 08 22:05:13 2001] Ucci says, 'in guiness'
[Mon Jan 08 22:05:20 2001] You say, 'But in all seriousness if your guild has someplace they want to go, have someone organize a mixer hunt there... anytime you want to'
[Mon Jan 08 22:05:22 2001] Pippi says, 'ROFL'
[Mon Jan 08 22:05:29 2001] Caramen says, 'i died in Seb...might be awile till i get back'
[Mon Jan 08 22:05:44 2001] Aeschelus says, 'ouch'
[Mon Jan 08 22:05:48 2001] Balendin says, 'eek'
[Mon Jan 08 22:05:51 2001] You say, 'The More mixers we have the better.. just publicize them'
[Mon Jan 08 22:06:04 2001] Guppin lets everyone know he is no longer AFK.
[Mon Jan 08 22:06:06 2001] You say, 'Sorry to hear that Caramen.. ye have a rez there? '
[Mon Jan 08 22:06:17 2001] Caramen says, 'am hoping..group camped out'
[Mon Jan 08 22:06:50 2001] You say, 'Which leads me to my next topic.. Pippi has been discussing a raid leader/organizer roundtable event... Pippi will you tell us about this one again? '
[Mon Jan 08 22:08:01 2001] Zatriz looks around and realizes he is the only Iksar here.
[Mon Jan 08 22:08:05 2001] Pippi says, 'sure,. sorry'
[Mon Jan 08 22:08:26 2001] Guppin realizes hes the only rogue here =)
[Mon Jan 08 22:08:33 2001] Pippi says, 'don't have a day set yet, but some time during the week'
[Mon Jan 08 22:08:35 2001] Caramen raises hand.
[Mon Jan 08 22:08:38 2001] Pippi says, 'in the evenings'
[Mon Jan 08 22:08:51 2001] Pippi says, 'we'll have a meeting, no unlike this, for 2-3 hours'
[Mon Jan 08 22:09:02 2001] Zatriz raises his hand.
[Mon Jan 08 22:09:04 2001] Pippi says, 'a couple of raid organizers and leaders have volunteered to come here'
[Mon Jan 08 22:09:18 2001] You say, 'I'll be there'
[Mon Jan 08 22:09:25 2001] Balendin says, 'If I can Pippi, I'll be there'
[Mon Jan 08 22:09:25 2001] Pippi says, 'aye'
[Mon Jan 08 22:09:33 2001] Pippi says, 'and belce, thanks balendin, guinness'
[Mon Jan 08 22:09:38 2001] Guinness nods.
[Mon Jan 08 22:09:52 2001] Pippi says, 'we have a short list of questions posted on the CoG board..feel free to add more'
[Mon Jan 08 22:10:02 2001] Pippi says, 'under the "Event"Forum'
[Mon Jan 08 22:10:13 2001] You say, 'For those of you who have people who want to lead but are inexperienced, this is a good place to hear some tips from people who are experienced at this sort of thing'
[Mon Jan 08 22:10:24 2001] Pippi says, 'once we start, each person at the roundtable will have a couple of minutes to address the question'
[Mon Jan 08 22:10:39 2001] Pippi says, 'followed by a brief discussion with the audience at the end of each question'
[Mon Jan 08 22:10:40 2001] Zatriz realizes his question has just been answered.
[Mon Jan 08 22:10:56 2001] Guppin says, 'hehe'
[Mon Jan 08 22:11:07 2001] You think you are heading East.
[Mon Jan 08 22:11:24 2001] Pippi says, 'I'll try to organize a day by the end of this month or beginning of february...if there are specific days you prefer, please post them under the roundtable thread'
[Mon Jan 08 22:11:36 2001] Pippi says, 'same with questions...whatever question you wanted to ask about raids, please post them'
[Mon Jan 08 22:11:44 2001] Pippi says, 'any big raids, doesn't have to be dragon or plane raid'
[Mon Jan 08 22:11:56 2001] You say, 'Thank you Pippi... I think this will be a good learning experience.... would you also like to talk about the Chess Tourney coming up? '
[Mon Jan 08 22:12:09 2001] Pippi says, 'sure )'
[Mon Jan 08 22:12:15 2001] Guppin says, 'mmm....chess.....'
[Mon Jan 08 22:12:20 2001] Pippi says, 'haemish will be the head judge'
[Mon Jan 08 22:12:22 2001] Haemish rubs his hands together in anticpation of the chess tourney.
[Mon Jan 08 22:12:23 2001] Gamgie love chess.
[Mon Jan 08 22:12:28 2001] Pippi grins at Haemish.
[Mon Jan 08 22:12:37 2001] Balendin hates chess :P.
[Mon Jan 08 22:12:45 2001] Pippi says, 'together with Dogedme'
[Mon Jan 08 22:13:10 2001] Pippi says, 'the rules, together with some other details, have been posted on the Council of Guilds forum "Events"...please sign up there if you are interested'
[Mon Jan 08 22:13:22 2001] Pippi says, 'date is January 20 start at 1 pm est (I think)'
[Mon Jan 08 22:13:32 2001] You say, 'Aye that's it Pippi'
[Mon Jan 08 22:13:35 2001] Pippi says, 'it's going to be battle/archon style chess, so be prepped to duel'
[Mon Jan 08 22:13:36 2001] Ucci rembers chessboard had broken peices.
[Mon Jan 08 22:13:44 2001] Guppin says, 'what day is that?'
[Mon Jan 08 22:13:53 2001] Pippi says, 'saturday, at the Butcherblok chessboard'
[Mon Jan 08 22:13:57 2001] Guppin says, 'ok'
[Mon Jan 08 22:14:07 2001] Pippi says, 'we still need chess piece volutneers as well as organizer help'
[Mon Jan 08 22:14:24 2001] Gamgie want to be the king hihihihih.
[Mon Jan 08 22:14:25 2001] Pippi says, 'please read the dueling and gaming rules if you are interested before you sign up'
[Mon Jan 08 22:14:33 2001] Guppin will be a pawn =)
[Mon Jan 08 22:14:43 2001] Pippi says, 'I'll announce the line up a day or two before the event, based on who has volunteered'
[Mon Jan 08 22:15:13 2001] Pippi thinks Guppin will be a good pawn )
[Mon Jan 08 22:15:16 2001] You say, 'This will be a really fun event... Karana is to my knowledge the only server to ever have one of these games go off successfully, and Pippi had about 40 or so show up for the last one'
[Mon Jan 08 22:15:21 2001] Pippi considers Gamgie for the queen )
[Mon Jan 08 22:15:40 2001] Pippi says, 'be aware that we will have level 50 vs. level 25 duels )'
[Mon Jan 08 22:15:45 2001] Gamgie ponders Pippi. What is going on with her?
[Mon Jan 08 22:15:47 2001] Zatriz just hopes he is not the little horsie.
[Mon Jan 08 22:15:54 2001] Pippi says, 'but it's all for fun, and we should have a medic there for level 50+ rezzes'
[Mon Jan 08 22:15:56 2001] Guppin says, 'hmm....thats not going to be good =)'

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